Why is HLS Media not available thru the AppleTV app?

So what is the deal with HLS media. If it is not supported directly from the Apple TV then why can I still export it from the server running my library to that Apple TV. That implies that it is a supported format, but the device is purposely blocked from seeing that in my library. Sorry, but as a former software engineer, I know a bug when I see one. It may have been intentional. At best that puts it in the class of backwards compatibility issue. Regardless, it's a bug. It needs to be addressed.


Finally, why is the HLS media only supported on the server to which it was downloaded. It cannot be moved anywhere outside of the download space. Furthermore, if I delete it but leave it on the filesystem, I can't reimport. I have to download it again. Sorry, but I don't have the bandwidth to stream this or download it to every server running AppleTV software. I went to external NFS servers in my network to keep my library from being on drives that cannot support the space as well as give me the the full range of view-ability that I can only get from an internally managed 1GB ethernet. I can't even delete it from that library because if I do it won't allow the downloaded file to be reimported. I don't have the bandwidth to download this onto multiple servers or stream it otherwise. Whether you want to admit it or not, this is a major backwards compatibility flaw in the AppleTV devices. I would recommend fixing it, because the not supported format line doesn't quite cut it when I can still export from the server to that same AppleTV you say doesn't support the format.

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Posted on Jun 28, 2024 7:20 PM

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Posted on Jun 29, 2024 12:37 AM

Why is HLS Media not available thru the AppleTV app?

Are you referring to downloads of Apple DRM’ed content (buy/​rent/​subscribe)? Like movies from the iTunes Store, or Apple TV+, or third party content provider channels in the Apple TV app?

Other HLS Media files, DRM’ed or not, may behave differently.


It may have been intentional.

The Apple developers have been made aware (for years), by users, of this lesser compatibility compared to the previous use .m4v files, and no changes has come from these reports. Especially for Home Sharing use, this is a bit of a letdown. Apple has been trying out HLS since 2009, so HLS is nothing new or underdeveloped. I’d figure it is intentional.


Finally, why is the HLS media only supported on the server to which it was downloaded. It cannot be moved anywhere outside of the download space.

Apple DRM’ed media files are valid only for the matching Apple ID and download device. These files are not transferrable. That has little to do with HLS Media (same for .m4v), but all to do with DRM protections. You can move the file to an external disk (or networked disk), or download directly to an external disk (or networked disk), but it must be played through the computer that downloaded it.

As Macs use ‘bundle’-properties for these HLS Media files (it is actually a folder, but presented as a file), that might cause issues on non-Mac file systems, where such properties may not be supported.

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Jun 29, 2024 12:37 AM in response to ChrisAJ99

Why is HLS Media not available thru the AppleTV app?

Are you referring to downloads of Apple DRM’ed content (buy/​rent/​subscribe)? Like movies from the iTunes Store, or Apple TV+, or third party content provider channels in the Apple TV app?

Other HLS Media files, DRM’ed or not, may behave differently.


It may have been intentional.

The Apple developers have been made aware (for years), by users, of this lesser compatibility compared to the previous use .m4v files, and no changes has come from these reports. Especially for Home Sharing use, this is a bit of a letdown. Apple has been trying out HLS since 2009, so HLS is nothing new or underdeveloped. I’d figure it is intentional.


Finally, why is the HLS media only supported on the server to which it was downloaded. It cannot be moved anywhere outside of the download space.

Apple DRM’ed media files are valid only for the matching Apple ID and download device. These files are not transferrable. That has little to do with HLS Media (same for .m4v), but all to do with DRM protections. You can move the file to an external disk (or networked disk), or download directly to an external disk (or networked disk), but it must be played through the computer that downloaded it.

As Macs use ‘bundle’-properties for these HLS Media files (it is actually a folder, but presented as a file), that might cause issues on non-Mac file systems, where such properties may not be supported.

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