Apple Card issues? Anyone else experience this??

it seems like Apple Card will put a extremely long hold on money that they will take instantly out my account but it’s no evidence it has been paid. It’s 2024 I paid with a credit union bank account. I called a specialist they hung up on me mid conversation. Now I’m spending hundreds to pay off but can’t utilize the card because they refuse to update my balance. You’ll be better off and actually able to speak with real bank accountants that can actually use a computer and update your account and do things as a courtesy to make up for the terrible experience. Hope anyone that has this card doesn’t use it to pay anything important and expect to pay it off and be able to use it again for any reason or emergency because you will be left with NO AVAILABLE BALANCE for 10 days

iPhone XS, iOS 14

Posted on Jul 9, 2024 9:54 AM

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Posted on Jul 10, 2024 6:15 AM

Hi, just everyone participating in this thread is on the same page and for general overall clarity, I’m going to explain a few things.


Your Apple Card Mastercard is issued and serviced by Goldman Sachs Bank. The card is considered a co-branded credit card. Many large companies have co-branded credit cards. I have co-branded cards from American Airlines, Hilton, Marriott, Hotels. com and several others. Apple overall has little to do except market the product as a service.


When you call Goldman Sachs Bank about your account you’re chatting or speaking to an Apple Card Specialist. The specialist is neither an employee of Apple or Goldman Sachs. You’re speaking to an employee of a third party business contracted by Goldman to supply customer service representatives. If you call Apple about your account, the call is transferred to, yup you guessed it, the same third party customer service representative. The only time you’ll talk to an Apple employee is if there is a technical issue involving iPhone hardware etc.


I suspect the third party Apple Card Specialist did hang up on you. Beyond that I can’t comment because I’ve not heard the conversation leading up to the termination of the call.


When you accepted your Apple Card account, Goldman Sachs offered you a credit limit, interest rate and payment terms that you agreed to. The key takeaway here is you agreed to make payments on your account by the due date. In return for making those payments on time, you’d continue to have the agreed upon credit limit. Each party has to trust the other and fulfill their obligation.


It sounds like there was an issue with a payment. Whether it was your fault or not, you failed to fulfill your agreed upon obligation. The bank took action to protect their interests. They temporarily did not restore your credit limit.


The bank understands that mistakes happen. If this happened with the majority of credit cards, you’d have owed additional fees for returned payment and late fees. But more importantly the trust the bank showed to you has been damaged. How do they know you won’t do this every month? You need to make several on time payments to help restore the trust.


When you initiate a payment, Goldman starts the request by sending the request for funds to your bank. Most banks typically show the debit instantly, but that’s a courtesy to help the customer balance their account and not overdraft the account. In reality the funds are still there. The transfer typically takes 3 to 5 business days to complete. It might have been a week before Goldman actually received the funds. During that time it’s trust that allows Goldman to increase your available credit. However, your bank/credit union can request the return of those funds ie cancel the payment, for up to 30 days. That’s a lot of trust a bank has to offer their customer/account owner.


The easiest way around this issue is to make future payments using Apple Cash. It’s simple, do an instant transfer to Apple Cash, then pay the monthly Apple Card statement using Apple Cash as the source of the funds.


I understand your frustration and just want to say we’re all here to help. I’m happy to answer any questions or concerns. 😀


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Jul 10, 2024 6:15 AM in response to Pharmgirl279

Hi, just everyone participating in this thread is on the same page and for general overall clarity, I’m going to explain a few things.


Your Apple Card Mastercard is issued and serviced by Goldman Sachs Bank. The card is considered a co-branded credit card. Many large companies have co-branded credit cards. I have co-branded cards from American Airlines, Hilton, Marriott, Hotels. com and several others. Apple overall has little to do except market the product as a service.


When you call Goldman Sachs Bank about your account you’re chatting or speaking to an Apple Card Specialist. The specialist is neither an employee of Apple or Goldman Sachs. You’re speaking to an employee of a third party business contracted by Goldman to supply customer service representatives. If you call Apple about your account, the call is transferred to, yup you guessed it, the same third party customer service representative. The only time you’ll talk to an Apple employee is if there is a technical issue involving iPhone hardware etc.


I suspect the third party Apple Card Specialist did hang up on you. Beyond that I can’t comment because I’ve not heard the conversation leading up to the termination of the call.


When you accepted your Apple Card account, Goldman Sachs offered you a credit limit, interest rate and payment terms that you agreed to. The key takeaway here is you agreed to make payments on your account by the due date. In return for making those payments on time, you’d continue to have the agreed upon credit limit. Each party has to trust the other and fulfill their obligation.


It sounds like there was an issue with a payment. Whether it was your fault or not, you failed to fulfill your agreed upon obligation. The bank took action to protect their interests. They temporarily did not restore your credit limit.


The bank understands that mistakes happen. If this happened with the majority of credit cards, you’d have owed additional fees for returned payment and late fees. But more importantly the trust the bank showed to you has been damaged. How do they know you won’t do this every month? You need to make several on time payments to help restore the trust.


When you initiate a payment, Goldman starts the request by sending the request for funds to your bank. Most banks typically show the debit instantly, but that’s a courtesy to help the customer balance their account and not overdraft the account. In reality the funds are still there. The transfer typically takes 3 to 5 business days to complete. It might have been a week before Goldman actually received the funds. During that time it’s trust that allows Goldman to increase your available credit. However, your bank/credit union can request the return of those funds ie cancel the payment, for up to 30 days. That’s a lot of trust a bank has to offer their customer/account owner.


The easiest way around this issue is to make future payments using Apple Cash. It’s simple, do an instant transfer to Apple Cash, then pay the monthly Apple Card statement using Apple Cash as the source of the funds.


I understand your frustration and just want to say we’re all here to help. I’m happy to answer any questions or concerns. 😀


Jul 9, 2024 10:01 AM in response to Pharmgirl279

Is your account relatively new, less than 6 months old? Was it a larger payment than you’ve previously made? Is your account near its credit limit? Is your checking account new? There are probably a dozen other factors that affect when your payment is credited to your accounts available credit. Banks will delay crediting the payment when they are at risk of fraud. Legally, they have 30 days to credit the funds. 


Just as an FYI, your bank has up to 30 days after payment to request return of funds for your payment. Many people believe that once the funds are withdrawn from their bank, it’s paid. But that’s not the way it works. This means I can have a $5000 credit limit, spend it, make a payment of $5000 and spend that. I’ve spent $10000 of the banks money and now I can skip. The original payment bounces or my bank demands it’s return to cover other withdrawals and Goldman Sachs is out $10,000. This happens everyday, but on a large scale. Banks are careful with their depositors money and rightly so. I’m not accusing, just using an example of what an automated system is designed to protect against. 

Jul 9, 2024 11:08 AM in response to Jeff Donald

I don’t have that issue with any other card though. If I make a payment and there’s an issue with funds, simply decline the transaction. I don’t see why it would even go through because if you go to a store and buy something and there’s not enough money it’ll decline and that’s the end of it. Punishing a consumer after you already approved them for the credit card and gave them a limit & they’ve made several payments with no issue is very unreasonable. This issue occurred due to my bank distributing funds to a newer account I opened instead of the original one I had intended it to go through. My credit union was very apologetic and reversed any mistaken overdraft fee as a courtesy. It’s just frustrating that Apple Card has no other option or resolution for a situation like this other than to hold your money for a questionable amount of time. Defeats the purpose of having the credit card I don’t know how they expect to keep consumers with such a strict no exception policy.

Jul 9, 2024 3:01 PM in response to lkrupp

Um no, I have no reason to lie about that nor do I gain anything from saying that. They did hang up on me, it was a 10 minute conversation. I wasn’t being rude or vulgar whatsoever because at the end of the day it’s not that individual’s fault Apple doesn’t give them much power to assist me. I kept on asking more questions and she would look into it, when I started to dig deeper and ask additional questions I was hung up on. Could it have been an accident? Maybe, but I’m not sure why I would not have received a call back or an email following up considering the conversations are monitored and recorded for “quality assurance”.

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