Can Apple Watch tell you your VO2 Max accurately?

I'm an older guy that has some concerns with the V02 Max results. I do quite a bit of cardio: indoor bike, outdoor bike, walk, hike, very slow run, circuit training. The only results that are measured are the outdoor walk, hike, and run. One problem is that i have a one knee that is slightly gimpy. As a result, I don't often walk or run at max effort. Running or walking at max speeds outdoors are more limited by the knee than than running out of breath. So some days, I deliberately walk slower than normal (but longer) and focus on the scenery instead of the effort. My heart rate on those days is not very elevated. If I don't record these events, they won't count as exercise. I'd like to see the V02 max measurements on other events (cycling) that are not as limited by knee issues. And a clarification about outdoor walks that are not intended to be challenging.


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Apple Watch Series 9, watchOS 10

Posted on Aug 8, 2024 9:50 AM

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Aug 8, 2024 10:19 AM in response to BackcountryGuy

I thing you are misunderstanding what the VO2 Max measurement is meant to measure. The idea of the score is a measurement of how >efficiently< your cardio/respiratory system utilizes oxygen. This is measured by raising your heart rate, among other factors. At best, your watch can give you an estimate. An actual VO2 Max test involves running on a treadmill while breathing into a tube and having multiple sensors connected to your chest. Anything else is a rough estimate, at best. If Apple currently doesn’t measure a specific activity, it’s most likely because the accuracy is outside an acceptable standard. Not everything can be accurately (or even measured) from a limited number of sensors on a wrist.


I’ll share a video that helps explains the major factors.


https://youtu.be/A3YK_-8PrZw?si=QjiRDnnnbzPe-uo5

Aug 9, 2024 8:38 AM in response to BackcountryGuy

Have you read the information Apple has available to you in Health app on your iPhone? I’ll copy and paste it for your convenience.


>>This is a measurement of your VO2 max, which is the maximum amount of oxygen your body can consume during exercise. Also called cardiorespiratory fitness, this is a useful measurement for everyone from the very fit to those managing illness.


A higher VO max indicates a higher level of cardio fitness and endurance.


Measuring VO, max requires a physical test and special equipment. You can also get an estimated VO max with heart rate and motion data from a fitness tracker. Apple Watch can record an estimated VO, max when you do a brisk walk, hike, or run outdoors.


VO2 max is validated for users 20 and older.


Most people can improve their VO max with more intense and more frequent cardiovascular exercise. Certain conditions or medications that limit your heart rate may cause an overestimation of your VO, max. VO2 max is not validated for pregnant users. You can indicate you're taking certain medications or add a current pregnancy in Health Details.<<


You’re also allowed to add data, so that may be your best path forward if you don’t have confidence in your Watches measurements and calculations.

Aug 9, 2024 8:59 AM in response to Jeff Donald

Hi Jeff,


Thanks for the quick response. Yes, I've read all that. And a lot more.


I still believe the Apple instructions are vague. What's brisk? And should users not record follow-up walks that are not brisk? To keep their average up?


Here's my work-around for now. I will recalibrate my original measurement for now. Walk/run on a grassy field (to avoid knee issues) at max effort. Get a new measurement. Continue to record additional walks even those that are scenic rather than aerobic. Don't pay attention to running VO2 Max scores. Recalibrate once a month.


I will also get a "real" VO2 max score at a provider and compare Apple results and Cooper 12 minute test results.


Bye.



Aug 9, 2024 8:22 AM in response to Jeff Donald

Hi Jeff,


Probably not a great idea for you to start a reply implying that the poster doesn't understand the concept.


There are several ways that people can get an estimate of V02 max values without getting the real thing besides the Apple watch. Including the Cooper 12 minute test. Almost all of them require a certain level of effort to get an accurate estimate. The Apple watch does not require that for follow up walks, hikes or runs. Or give much direction on the level of exertion for the original measurement. Might be better for them to give better instructions for the original measurement, then not try to keep a running average on subsequent efforts.







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