How did a note I was typing on my iPad get sent to my Thunderbird email on my PC but not on my iOS devices?

I was composing a long text to my son. I did this in the Notes application on my iPad 9th Gen running iOS 17.6, as it is easier to read and edit in that application. My intention was to copy the body of the missive from Notes and paste it into the iOS Text app, but I hadn’t got that far as I was checking some of the details that were actually stored in an Excel worksheet on my Windows laptop.

The title I gave the missive in Notes was light humor. It was ‘Time to Pay’ and I had no intention of including it in the final text.

Having my Windows laptop open and editing the text I still had in Notes on my iPad as far as I could take it today, I thought I would open Thunderbird on my laptop and download my latest emails.

Once Thunderbird had finished getting my emails I was stunned to find ~20 emails appeared in my inbox, apparently received a few minutes prior, each with the same title ‘Time to Pay’. I opened a couple and found the body of the work I was composing on my iPad Notes app as the body of these texts.

I kid you not, and have no idea how this could possibly happen.

I have VPN on my iPad, my iPhone and my laptop.

The repeated messages, each a few seconds apart, showed up only in Thunderbird. They did not show up on my iOS Mail apps on my phone or my iPad.

My iPad does not have a SIM card.

can anyone explain this?


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Posted on Aug 9, 2024 8:59 PM

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Posted on Aug 10, 2024 6:10 PM

I am apparently quite naive on Notes. I never comprehended that IOS Notes would have ties to my gmail account. I can think of no reason why I would want that. But I went through Settings/Email and Settings/Notes and found some ambiguous settings in my gmail account that implied it had access to notes.

Then I found in my Notes App that Gmail had setup a directory and planted me there, unbeknownst to me of course. The final link in the process was that I had inadvertently composed my latest Note in the Gmail directory.

I copied the text onto a new page in On my iPad and shutdown gmail permissions to my Note app.

So. Gmail sneaked a change to my Notes app and stole the default settings.

Gmail and Thunderbird then joined forces and created lots of emails from me to me , but only viewable on Thunderbird on my laptop, but not seen in my iOS iPad and iPhone mail boxes.

pretty crazy eh?

I think I’ve thwarted the takeover bid by Gmail by disabling gmail permissions on my iPad. Thanks Mark for making me aware.

Now I have to check out our iPhones……..

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Aug 10, 2024 6:10 PM in response to MeConfused-II

I am apparently quite naive on Notes. I never comprehended that IOS Notes would have ties to my gmail account. I can think of no reason why I would want that. But I went through Settings/Email and Settings/Notes and found some ambiguous settings in my gmail account that implied it had access to notes.

Then I found in my Notes App that Gmail had setup a directory and planted me there, unbeknownst to me of course. The final link in the process was that I had inadvertently composed my latest Note in the Gmail directory.

I copied the text onto a new page in On my iPad and shutdown gmail permissions to my Note app.

So. Gmail sneaked a change to my Notes app and stole the default settings.

Gmail and Thunderbird then joined forces and created lots of emails from me to me , but only viewable on Thunderbird on my laptop, but not seen in my iOS iPad and iPhone mail boxes.

pretty crazy eh?

I think I’ve thwarted the takeover bid by Gmail by disabling gmail permissions on my iPad. Thanks Mark for making me aware.

Now I have to check out our iPhones……..

Aug 9, 2024 9:47 PM in response to MeConfused-II

I've seen such things happen when a mail composer program with autosave active interacts badly with a mail server that treats each autosave as a new message. I've never heard of it happening between a note composer and a mail receiver, but maybe it can happen if they share a common server?


As for the lack of a SIM card, was your iPad perhaps on a wifi network or hotspot connected to the internet?

Aug 9, 2024 10:10 PM in response to markwmsn

My iPad is on my home network. It has no cellular capability. I could have worded that better.

My iCloud backup for Notes is turned off.

I am using the Apple iOS mail app, nothing fancy.

I don’t understand how iOS Notes can even generate an email and it worries me that it even can (did- and 20+ of them).

I cannot fathom a thread of a connection between Notes and Mail on an iPad and how did Windows Thunderbird show received mail whereas my iPhone does not.

This is perplexing and concerning.

Thanks for the response Mark.


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