Time machine excludes second backup hard drive

Hi all,

I used to make Time Machine backups to 2 different hard drives (one is a Time Capsule, the other a LaCie SSD). All worked very well until recently, when Time Machine suddenly moved my LaCie drive to the "exclude" list, from where I cannot remove it (minus sign is greyed out).


I can see that there is data on the LaCie and I had accessed it in the past, but now it won't let me access my backups as it says "no backups completed".


I am just a regular computer user, no IT specialist. Hence, I prefer not to start any reformatting and similar. I tried renaming the LaCie and plugging it into a different USB port, but this did not help. Do I really need to erase it all and backup freshly again?


MacBook Pro 16″, macOS 14.5

Posted on Aug 23, 2024 3:16 AM

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Aug 23, 2024 6:09 AM in response to ReinholdErich

Time machine can only back up drives that are working properly and Mac-Formatted.


Re: Mac formatted

Drives like the MyBook came with software, and the manufacturer suggested you install that software.


What that software does is to "spare you the annoyance of having to re-initialize the drive" from its factory set Windows New Technology File System (NTFS, the W is silent because there are no other Operating Systems) or similar unusual (on a Mac) format. Instead, the software they provided would simulate a MacOS drive inside an NTFS file for your Mac.


The downside of using the manufacturer's software is that if the manufacturer's software is not loaded, the Macintosh Volume may not be readable, or may not be writable. This means that in startup manager, Installer, and in Recovery such as after a data loss, the Macintosh Volume may not be visible.


The standard advice given here to all users, including novice users, is to discard the manufacturers software and NEVER use it. "Best Practice" is to erase the physical device when new, using only MacOS Disk Utility, and create the fundamental data structures needed for consistent, reliable use by MacOS.


Be sure to "show all devices" which will allow you to ERASE the entire Physical Device by its immutable manufacturer-given device-name, not just user created Volume-name such as ‘Macintosh HD’.


diskutil list


/dev/disk6 (internal, physical):

#: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIER

0: GUID_partition_scheme *240.1 GB disk6

1: EFI ⁨EFI⁩ 209.7 MB disk6s1

2: Apple_APFS ⁨Container disk7⁩ 239.8 GB disk6s2


/dev/disk7 (synthesized):

#: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIER

0: APFS Container Scheme - +239.8 GB disk7

Physical Store disk6s2

1: APFS Volume ⁨X14-SSD240⁩ 97.5 GB disk7s1

2: APFS Volume ⁨Preboot⁩ 26.5 MB disk7s2

3: APFS Volume ⁨Recovery⁩ 507.6 MB disk7s3

4: APFS Volume ⁨VM⁩ 20.5 KB disk7s4


Aug 23, 2024 11:43 AM in response to ReinholdErich

It thinks the Time capsule drive is still associated, showing the icon for a shared network backup destination. But for some reason has not made a backup in about ten days.


It thinks that LaCie backup drive is still associated, showing the icon for a local time machine backup destination. it has at least one backup on it, but has not made a backup in about 12 days. It has a problem (as indicated by the red dot.) What error message do you get when you click the red dot?

Aug 23, 2024 7:35 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

I am not sure where i find this. When I open time machine via the Finder toolbar (so that I end up in System settings), then I see both drives with space available and when the last backup was. When I try to start a backup manually, nothing happens. The LaCie drives states also that the MBP would run on battery power and start a backup once the MBP is connected to a power source. Which it is.

Where do I find this button to switch time machine off or on?

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