After migrating to new Sequoia version, the dock cannot be moved to another monitor

adiebaker wrote:

Sorry Barney but you're just plain wrong. This has worked for as long as I can remember (I've had a Mac for about 15 years) as described by others. It's just broken in Sequoia. Not sure why you think we'd overshoot the bar at the bottom of the screen, I think everyone using a computer nowadays can navigate using a mouse very accurately. Who wants to scroll all the way down to the bottom of the lowest monitor to open an app? Apple just need to fix it and give users back what they're used to and want.

The Dock is like training wheels for a beginner mac user. Who uses THREE displays and still feels the need to use the Dock just to open an app?

Sorry Barney but you're just plain wrong. This has worked for as long as I can remember (I've had a Mac for about 15 years) as described by others. It's just broken in Sequoia.

It may have worked in some intervening macOS versions, but when "Displays have separate spaces" was created by Apple, you could not put the Dock on the seam between two displays. You still cannot put the Dock on a vertical seam between two displays. In searching the evolution, eventually, Apple did make what you want work. I would have never known because my Dock has always been on the side of the screen and as noted, it has never been possible to put it on a vertical seam.

But, as has been the norm for quite some time, things that were "fixed" in one macOS tends to get "broken" about every other macOS release. It's almost as if the new macOS developers start from the preceding macOS, not the current macOS. Or, they just write everything from scratch and fail to incorporate the previous modifications.

Not sure why you think we'd overshoot the bar at the bottom of the screen, I think everyone using a computer nowadays can navigate using a mouse very accurately.

Well, Apple certainly thinks they can't. That's why the menu bar is at the top of the screen. I'll leave that research to you. You have to go way back to the '80's and the origins of the Macintosh.

Who wants to scroll all the way down to the bottom of the lowest monitor to open an app?

I don't know why anyone would reach for the mouse to open an app. Just type cmd-space, type a couple of letters, and hit return. The Dock is just something to make Windows user comfortable much like the Launchpad makes iOS users comfortable. Both are unnecessary wastes of space. There are some useful features in the Dock, like dragging a file to Mail to create an attachment and opening files with the non-default App, but that's not worth the effort. My Dock looks like this so I can make it the least obtrusive as possible:

Learn to live without the Windows Woobie.

khofidin wrote:

I don't know why level 9 user can say something like this :). Many of users said that this was a bug, even Apple bring it back the function in version 15.1. Wanna stand with your thoughts?

Just because there was a change, does not mean it is a bug. It is a bug only if the change was not intended.

I am fully aware of what the change was. The only situation that is different is when there are three displays.

This (with two displays) was NEVER possible:

This USED to be possible - assuming there was enough of the top left display area to "bump into the bottom" without crossing to the lower display:

This at present does not work. Is it a bug? I don't know. You and others think it is.

You can and should and probably have reported it.

If the change was unintended, then it will probably be reverted. If it was deliberate, then it is not a bug and will not be "fixed". Only Apple can decide that, not any of us.

I am a new in this forum just to report this bug, but I have been using MBP for about 12 years for developing software. But if you said that I'm a beginner, I can accept that as maybe you are using Mac since 50 years ago. 😂

I have been using a Mac since 39 years ago, a little less time than Barney 😎. The mac came out in 1984, and I happened to be one of the first people in my country, Portugal, to use one in 1985, and never stopped. There were a small number 128K and 512K macs at my university at the time.

I have only personally owned one for 30 years (I fondly remember my Quadra 840AV that I bought in 1994)

Barney has more eloquently than me explained how the Dock and Launchpad cater to users from other backgrounds, and how using just the keyboard with Spotlight is faster than reaching for the mouse or trackpad. I completely agree with him. My Dock is always on the side, and hidden. I never touch it.

A big waste of space in a small screen, a lot of wrist work to reach on a large screen.

Confirm you are not trying to put the Dock on a seem between displays. That has never been possible.

I can confirm the issue has been fixed on my computer since 15.1

Okay, correction. It worked before the update from Sonoma to Sequoia. I haven't changed my setup in over a year. After the update it no longer worked.

Many others have the exact same problem:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MacOS/comments/1fidqex/dock_behaviour_change_in_sequoia_with/

When connecting to two monitors, macbook or any monitor is used as the main monitor. Previously, the dock could be moved to the monitor by hovering the mouse over the bottom of the other two monitors, but after the update, it is not allowed. The simple diagram below 😂

Your image shows how it has always worked. It doesn't matter which is the primary monitor. You can't place the Dock on a seam between displays. That would violate Apple design guidelines as you could easily overshoot the Dock and have to play whack-a-mole moving back and forth. That's why the menu bar is at the top of the screen and not on top of windows.

Maybe... you can look this video

https://youtu.be/JUUyrW-vyWU?feature=shared

before Sequoia, it can be moved like this, whether it is two screens or three screens.

It is worth explaining that I hope this function exists, because it is very convenient for me to operate dock more conveniently under multiple monitors.

I have the exact same problem. I have a desktop monitor on a stand, with my MacBook Pro below that. In other words, the screens are vertically aligned, where my desktop monitor is configured as my primary display.

Before I could just hoover the mouse at the bottom of my main display, and the dock would move there. This does not work anymore in macOS Sequoia.

So it's definitely a bug that needs to be addressed.

That may be, but wanting to have the Dock in a position where it is right in the center of your compound screen is something that I still cannot understand. I know that different people work in different ways, but still... more screens for more real estate, and then waste you space front and center with the Dock. Oh well...

Thanks - that worked for me. It also solves a long term issue as with my work pattern I prefer the dock to not appear on my left hand external monitor, so creating a gap on the right but not the left eliminated the "seam" issue that some commenters are bleating about. Thanks again.

Imagine a large external display situated above a laptop - you're working primarily on the external display as it offers increased real estate, but now have to move your cursor all the way to the very bottom of the laptop screen to change between apps by clicking their icon on the dock. It's incredibly frustrating, especially when it's been possible up to this point to have the dock move between displays easily to suit your workflow.

Before somebody suggests using cmd+tab to switch between apps, I'm left handed and use a WACOM so that isn't a viable option. The dock can switch between screens if they're side by side, so why not above and below, as before?

I can kind of understand the logic behind what you're saying, but up until Sequoia the dock has absolutely been able to sit on the 'seam' between displays and overshooting it has never been an issue - I've been using it in this way for at least a decade now, if not longer. It just seems like an odd piece of functionality for Apple to remove, but it isn't the first and won't be the last, I'm sure.

Regarding your cmd+tab comment, yes I use both hands to type, but it's difficult to use a key combination that requires your left hand when you're holding a WACOM stylus in your left hand (hence noting that I use a WACOM and am left handed). There's no tab button on the right hand side of my keyboard for my 'spare' hand to utilise.

For those who have managed to add the 'gap' between displays, how have you achieved this? My displays want to sit flush with each other when arranging them - is this something that is only possible if using three displays, rather than just two?

-ra wrote:

I can kind of understand the logic behind what you're saying, but up until Sequoia the dock has absolutely been able to sit on the 'seam' between displays and overshooting it has never been an issue - I've been using it in this way for at least a decade now, if not longer. It just seems like an odd piece of functionality for Apple to remove, but it isn't the first and won't be the last, I'm sure.

Regarding your cmd+tab comment, yes I use both hands to type, but it's difficult to use a key combination that requires your left hand when you're holding a WACOM stylus in your left hand (hence noting that I use a WACOM and am left handed). There's no tab button on the right hand side of my keyboard for my 'spare' hand to utilise.

Ok

For those who have managed to add the 'gap' between displays, how have you achieved this? My displays want to sit flush with each other when arranging them - is this something that is only possible if using three displays, rather than just two?

Yes, it requires three displays. If you have only two displays, you can't leave a gap, otherwise your cursor would be stuck in one the displays and not reach the other. Note that with three displays, each display still needs to touch at least one of the other two.

In the configuration below, for example, you can put the Dock at the bottom of display 2, but not 1; and if you want your cursor to go from 2 to 3, you need to move through display 1, as 2 and 3 are not adjacent: