After migrating to new Sequoia version, the dock cannot be moved to another monitor

timbavd wrote:

I have for several years had a 4K screen physically positioned and in settings arranged immediately and centrally above my laptop screen. My large screen 23.5" wide and is as high as its stand will allow, and the laptop sits beneath it and is 13.5" wide, so there's 5" on either side of the top screen where the pointer will not descend.

Prior to Sequoia, I have been able - as described variously above - to position my mouse to one or other of the 5" 'shoulders' of the upper screen and then slide the pointer downwards, with the result that the pointer stays on the upper screen, but the dock shifts to the top screen, above the menu bar of the built-in screen, so I could move up from the lower screen's menu bar onto the dock on the upper screen. This was on both my ARM and my Intel Mac.

Far from having 'never been possible', it has been very ergonomic - reducing the distance my pointer has to travel from the multiplicity of windows I have open across a large area, reducing the distraction from my focus of interest, improving my workflow, and has never resulted in my having to 'play whack-a-mole'. Most of us don't live on 512x342 pixel screens any more, so there are various other decisions made back then which are also probably due for a bit of different thinking - mix the dock into launchpad, context-sensitive application menu, etc.

If you search back through the history of the dock, when it was initially made possible to move between screens, it did not work, whether there was a gap on the edges or not. The dock couldn’t be put on the scene between displays. At some point along the line, Apple made it possible to do what you described. I have no idea whether it was possible or not and when that happened because my monitors have always been the same size and there was no gap, and then I started using my dock on the side since I never use it and it doesn’t take up any vertical real estate. On the side, it is not possible to make it appear in the seam regardless of gaps.

So, it originally did not work, Apple made it work, and like many things, that fix got lost when they rewrote the software for the new OS version.

there are some posts that say, they will restore that function in the next update, but I can’t provide you any information on that, just what others have said

So it's definitely a bug that needs to be addressed.

That may be, but wanting to have the Dock in a position where it is right in the center of your compound screen is something that I still cannot understand. I know that different people work in different ways, but still... more screens for more real estate, and then waste you space front and center with the Dock. Oh well...

Thanks - that worked for me. It also solves a long term issue as with my work pattern I prefer the dock to not appear on my left hand external monitor, so creating a gap on the right but not the left eliminated the "seam" issue that some commenters are bleating about. Thanks again.

I under your setup.

I think it was Barney that already explained why this does not work. The Dock has to be on an edge, and in your situation it would be in the middle of the combined display. You move the cursor to an edge and “bump into it”, which makes the Dock easy to target. In the situation you describe one would easily “overshoot”. You may want it to work like this, and you can ask Apple to change it back. We users can’t do anything about it, either way.

FWIW, the command-tab uses only the keyboard so, right-or left handed should not make any difference, I think. You do use both hands to type, no?

adiebaker wrote:

Sorry Barney but you're just plain wrong. This has worked for as long as I can remember (I've had a Mac for about 15 years) as described by others. It's just broken in Sequoia. Not sure why you think we'd overshoot the bar at the bottom of the screen, I think everyone using a computer nowadays can navigate using a mouse very accurately. Who wants to scroll all the way down to the bottom of the lowest monitor to open an app? Apple just need to fix it and give users back what they're used to and want.

The Dock is like training wheels for a beginner mac user. Who uses THREE displays and still feels the need to use the Dock just to open an app?

NOT ONLY CAN YOU NOT MOVE THE DOCK BUT WITH THE 15.0.1 UPDATE YOU HAVE NOW LOST THE MENU BAR AT THE TOP OF THE SECOND MONITOR AND WHEN YOU SCROLL TO A DIFFERENT DESKTOP ON ONE MONITOR, IT MOVES THE OTHER ONE TOO - TO A COMPLETELY BLANK SCREEN,

I LEFT WINDOWS AND PC YEARS AGO FOR THIS KIND OF NONSENSE, GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER APPLE - THIS IS A BIG INCONVENIENCE.

You are shouting, so allow me: USER ERROR!

You have disable "Displays have separate Spaces".

Turn it back on in System Settings->Desktop & Dock, log out and back in, and you will have the menu bar in each display... and er... separate Spaces (aka "Desktops") in each display.

No menu bar on other displays, and switching spaces on multiple displays at once are clear indications of what I wrote (having “displays having separate Spaces” turned off).

Did you have this on?

Did you turn it on? It only activates after logout and login.

Same issue. I found a decent workaround.

When you "arrange displays" leave a little space between the macbook on the bottom and the main monitor on top. That fixed it for me.

Confirm you are not trying to put the Dock on a seem between displays. That has never been possible.

Unfortunately that does not work for me on my preferred monitor setup -- it won't let me leave a gap.

@amiko, How did create that "gap?" I only have one monitor and when I arrange the laptop under the monitor it does allow me to leave a gap. Thanks.

I was so hopeful, nut it wont let me put space between arrangement

All i know is the old behavior was much better, I still always try on the shoulder of my external upper monitor and it's just frustrating they would remove this...