Any way / tricks to get iPhoto to run on Ventura

I have so much time and labour plus years of photos stored and viewed in iPhoto that using the Photos app and loosing all the Events created is just not an option.


Is there any way I can make iPhoto run with Ventura ?


I’d like to upgrade beyond 10.14.6 but this lack of iPhoto is just killing that stone dead.


I still run a few apps with the Stop circle across them, with various works rounds, via View Package Contents and Terminal.

is there any similar way to get iPhoto working?


Thank you

Mac Pro, macOS 10.14

Posted on Oct 25, 2024 1:42 AM

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Posted on Oct 25, 2024 2:27 AM

There is no full, supported version of iPhoto compatible with macOS Ventura.

The last version to support iPhoto is macOS 10.14. There are some hacks around to be able to run iPhoto on macOS 10.14 Catalina or later, but it is not a full version of iPhoto, just an emergency solution to access your photos.


I recommend strongly to create a Photos Library from iPhoto Library, while you are still running macOS 10.14.

The new Photos Library will not need much extra storage, because it will store the photos with hard links to iPhoto. You can still work with iPhoto, but will be ready to switch to use Photos to access your photos, if you have to abandon iPhoto.

You are now running the last version of macOS, where you can easily convert the iPhoto library to a Photos Library and preserve the events as albums and can open iPhoto and Photos at the same time to compare the migrated library to your original iPhoto Library.

If you have to replace your Mac with a new Mac sooner or later, it will come with macOS 15 Sequoia, and you will no longer be able to migrate the iPhoto Libraries as completely as you can now. You will be limited to import the media from iPhoto and lose even the albums, folders, keywords. Now is your last chance to get the best migration, including events as albums, albums, keywords, titles.


The second reason to create yourself at least a Photos Library now are the radical changes in macOS 10.15 or later, when Apple removed the support for 32-bit frameworks. After upgrading to Catalina, some iLife frameworks will be missing, that are necessary for some older image and video formats. you should be prepared, that some older videos or image files in your iPhoto Library will no longer be supported on the more recent 64-bit only system versions. These have to be weeded out and converted while still running a system version that is able to open and convert these media. After upgrading to Catalina or later you will need third party apps to convert legacy media. There is no equivalent list for Photos, but this list for iMovie should give you an idea, which videos and photos need attention before upgrading beyond Mojave: About legacy media in iMovie for macOS - Apple Support





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Oct 25, 2024 2:27 AM in response to Neil Paisnel

There is no full, supported version of iPhoto compatible with macOS Ventura.

The last version to support iPhoto is macOS 10.14. There are some hacks around to be able to run iPhoto on macOS 10.14 Catalina or later, but it is not a full version of iPhoto, just an emergency solution to access your photos.


I recommend strongly to create a Photos Library from iPhoto Library, while you are still running macOS 10.14.

The new Photos Library will not need much extra storage, because it will store the photos with hard links to iPhoto. You can still work with iPhoto, but will be ready to switch to use Photos to access your photos, if you have to abandon iPhoto.

You are now running the last version of macOS, where you can easily convert the iPhoto library to a Photos Library and preserve the events as albums and can open iPhoto and Photos at the same time to compare the migrated library to your original iPhoto Library.

If you have to replace your Mac with a new Mac sooner or later, it will come with macOS 15 Sequoia, and you will no longer be able to migrate the iPhoto Libraries as completely as you can now. You will be limited to import the media from iPhoto and lose even the albums, folders, keywords. Now is your last chance to get the best migration, including events as albums, albums, keywords, titles.


The second reason to create yourself at least a Photos Library now are the radical changes in macOS 10.15 or later, when Apple removed the support for 32-bit frameworks. After upgrading to Catalina, some iLife frameworks will be missing, that are necessary for some older image and video formats. you should be prepared, that some older videos or image files in your iPhoto Library will no longer be supported on the more recent 64-bit only system versions. These have to be weeded out and converted while still running a system version that is able to open and convert these media. After upgrading to Catalina or later you will need third party apps to convert legacy media. There is no equivalent list for Photos, but this list for iMovie should give you an idea, which videos and photos need attention before upgrading beyond Mojave: About legacy media in iMovie for macOS - Apple Support





Oct 25, 2024 4:41 AM in response to Neil Paisnel

The Retroactive version is just a crippled version - all frameworks needing 32-bit code are missing, but better than nothing. Be careful, and use it only to browse your libraries to access the photos.


I am not sure, why you are not seeing the events, when you migrate an iPhoto Library to Photos.

You should be finding all events in a folder "iPhoto Events" as albums. But you have to do the migration before upgrading to Ventura, after that it will be too late.


There are quite a few apps, that are allowing you to keep the photos in folders in the Finder and are not enclosing them in a database. But I have not tested them thoroughly and cannot recommend any as a replacement. I prefer my photos to be protected from accidental deletion, by letting an app manage them.


Oct 25, 2024 4:15 AM in response to léonie

Hi Leonie

Thanks


I avoided "Photos" years ago because of the loss of all the Events we had created over the years. with over 30,000 photos going back to 2006, I just do not ahve the time or inclination to loose all my work over the years and re-do it all. Thanks Apple!


I actually did not want to even use a 'database' type photos app when we moved to Apple, so I at least kept the original photos in a proper Folder Directory structure. But my partner insisted we use iPhoto, and I eventually got to using it and all our holidays family events etc are arranged by / in Events. Ruddy "Photos" app lost all of that so we stayed with iPhoto.




I have just found "Retroactive" which has allowed me to launch and use iPhoto in a test install of Sonoma on a 2010 Mac Boo Pro 6,2


Just glad I kept my photos organised manually and only have partial reliance on Apple and its **** apps.



thanks for trying to help any way.


Will just have to keep the Directory structure going and ignore any further Apple photo or music offerings as it seems that have trashed iTunes too...they just do not care about long time users.. :(


Oct 25, 2024 10:11 AM in response to Neil Paisnel

Horning in on the conversation: I had this picture of continuing to use Betamax because it's better than VHS, when I'm the only one I know who even still has a VHS player-- most people I know don't even have a DVD player anymore. (I do, of course.) There are a number of things that I wish Photos did like iPhoto, but there are many, many things that Photos offers that iPhoto never thought of. It's tough to use Betamax in a Streaming world.


Most people who are making the transition use PowerPhotos ($30) to convert iPhoto Libraries to Photos. PowerPhotos evolved from their iPhoto Library Manager that most of us depended on, so these are people with plenty of iPhoto experience. Here is a discussion from their website:

Converting iPhoto and Aperture libraries

I bet that they would have suggestions for you, if you want to ask--they're pretty nice folks.


But léonie is really the iPhoto expert. Since you can boot into any OS of the past, she may suggest that you bring up macOS 12.0 Monterey (maybe) and do a direct migration there. Frankly, I barely remember iPhoto, and I'm just throwing in my un-inflated 2¢.






Oct 25, 2024 9:30 AM in response to léonie

Léonie, first of all I must apologies for not getting l'accent aigu correct on your name in my initial reply :)


If i keep to just the Folder / Directory structure it will just go back to Year/Month/ Event folders backed up via Chronosync backup to a NAS server (XigmaNAS / NAS4Free)


I'd be the opposite and prefer to do it myself rather than rely on an app. And knowing Apple, as soon as I migrate all my stuff over to "photos" they will trash that and origin up a new app!


My partner passed away three years go and she was VERY prolific with her iPad, phone and Olympus camera.

I started splitting the photos in to independent iPhoto Libraries once the first one (2006 era) got to 340Gb. I have about 6 other iPhoto libraries but all less than 200- 150gb each.


The only time I tried to migrate to "Photos" early on, it did not keep the events and I have not tried since.


I kept a lot of my photos in an "Import" directory on the Data HDD in the mac pro, and exported the RAW to JPEG and kept folder names the same as events..or rather Events the same as Folder names. SO ...I might just be able to use the iPhoto Export function with SubFolder Naming as Event .with "Original" option selected...Did not do much editing within iPhoto, so the originals are just fine, in fact likely better.


As for which Operating system..I have multiple internal HDD's here with clones of all virtually all OS versions going back to 10.5.5, all bootable, so i can always go back to an earlier OIS if needed. Have now acquired about 6 Mac Pro towers, and a few of the angle poise "iMacs" too, with photos data on other drives..so :( hopefully } I can migrate a iPhoto library library and if all not well can always just delete and try again...


But...the easiest is just to get iPhoto tuning as Apple originally built it on Ventura/ Sequoia etc...


Such a shame Apple do not give a **** about their long term users that might be happy with what they have :)






Oct 26, 2024 8:50 AM in response to Richard.Taylor

Thank you.


I may just have to keep a boot HDD with what ever I am using now 10.14.6 Mojave..I can still use iPhoto with that.

There is only one reason I am updating..because of internet browsing and not being able to update Safari further.


Firefox is working of now but I fear it will not be long!


I'll try the app you suggest and may even have to put my hand in my pocket!



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