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AirPods Pro 2 Hearing Aids Not in Canada

In iOS 18.1 the long awaited Air Pods Pro 2 Hearing Test and Hearing Aids feature is (as of 18.1 release date) not available in Canada. When will it be available and is there any specific was as users we can make this happen?

iPhone 13 mini, iOS 18

Posted on Oct 28, 2024 12:53 PM

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Posted on Oct 31, 2024 8:59 AM

Look at the long list of countries where the Apple Airpod Pro hearing aid functionality is available. It includes many third-world countries but not Canada. This is nothing short of outrageous.


In Canada, corporate lobbies always win over consumers: the Big Three telecommunication companies are still charging an arm and a leg for internet and cell phone coverage, the big chartered banks are still charging high interest rates on credit cards and forcing a three-week pay cycle to change the due date every month and screw consumers with late payment fees, the audiologist and hearing aid lobby is still preventing consumers from purchasing over-the-counter hearing aids, 2 years after they have been made available in the US.


As I said, this is nothing short of outrageous.

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Oct 31, 2024 8:59 AM in response to tobianogreg

Look at the long list of countries where the Apple Airpod Pro hearing aid functionality is available. It includes many third-world countries but not Canada. This is nothing short of outrageous.


In Canada, corporate lobbies always win over consumers: the Big Three telecommunication companies are still charging an arm and a leg for internet and cell phone coverage, the big chartered banks are still charging high interest rates on credit cards and forcing a three-week pay cycle to change the due date every month and screw consumers with late payment fees, the audiologist and hearing aid lobby is still preventing consumers from purchasing over-the-counter hearing aids, 2 years after they have been made available in the US.


As I said, this is nothing short of outrageous.

Nov 2, 2024 12:30 PM in response to lakedogs_2000

It’s not as if allowing the iOS upgrade in Canada will have any effect on the audiologists own sales because if you couldn’t afford $5000 for a set of prescription Hearing Aids before the iPod Pro iOS 18.1 upgrade you are still not going to go to an audiologist. So let’s see the Canadian gov do the right thing and allow us all to use iPods for hearing tests and improve our hearing ability at the same time.

Oct 31, 2024 9:30 AM in response to tobianogreg

Last year, I purchased the Sony CRE-C10 from BestBuy US and had them shipped to Shipito for re-shipping to me in the Montreal area. Last month, I bought the Sony CRE-C20 from Amazon US, and it was again shipped to Shipito for re-shipment to me in the Montreal area. To install the Sony app for these OTC-ITE hearing aids, I had to create a US Apple ID, log out from my Canadian Apple ID, and use a VPN to be able to get the Sony app from the Apple store while logged into my US Apple ID, set up my hearing aids with the app, log out of my US Apple ID, log in to my Canadian Apple ID to have access to all my purchases (music, movies, books, etc.).


Fortunately, I don’t need to repeat this process to fine-tune my hearing aids with the Sony app. Once installed on my iPhone, I can use it even when logged into my Canadian Apple ID.


But isn’t it ridiculous that I must do all this to access good OTC-ITE hearing aids in Canada? One needs to be a bit savvy to do what I did, which is not the case for many elderly Canadians who would benefit most from affordable OTC hearing aids. The more I think of this, the more outrageous it appears to me...

Oct 31, 2024 8:25 PM in response to tobianogreg

Shhh - don’t tell the Canadian health regulatory authorities. They will soon set up inspection facilities to X-ray parcels to find those dangerous OTC hearing aids! Yah - it’s insane. Dictating to Apple “no, no, no - don’t you dare improve the functionality of your top selling product - we can’t block the sale of your iPods in Canada - but we can block your automatic customer upgrade to the latest IOS ! Talk about third world behavior - this is truly over the top. The time has come to stop this anticompetitive behavior - enabled by our very own Government. The media have got to pick up on this story and start screaming like ****.

Nov 10, 2024 3:18 PM in response to tobianogreg

Thanks for sharing this response from your MP.


So a product that is designed and sold (both in the US and Canada) for the dedicated purpose of improving hearing recognition (and likely called a “hearing aid”) is allowed to be sold and used in Canada - because it is cleverly characterized as a “hearing amplifier”.


Yet an internet OS update for long available AirPods is “blocked” for Canadians because this “software code”makes our AirPods into “medical devices” - and now our AirPods are miraculously seen by our “health guardian bureaucrats” in Health Canada as a “hearing aid” and therefore a “medical device”. And thus subject to Federal and Provincial regulatory control.


A clever sleight of hand - likely unlawful - pushing the boundary of medical device protectionist and anti-competitive practice beyond any logical or purposeful limit.


Why the difference? Health Canada realizes there is no practical way they can block the mail or citizen transmission of OTC hearing aids into Canada - without an extremely costly and heavy handed enforcement process.


Think trained hearing aid sniffer dogs at airports and border crossings. Maybe further x-ray inspections and training to recognize clandestine hearing aids tucked away in your luggage! How about having to remove your US purchased OTC hearing aids at Canada Customs upon returning to Canada after a vacation and having them inspected by trained Health Canada “experts” to determine if they are “hearing amplifiers” or “hearing aids”.


Yah - you get the picture (and sarcasm) I trust.


But if all Health Canada has to do is to misuse Canada’s control over the airwaves within Canada to “block” the download of this “dangerous to the Health of Canadians” latest OS update - then it’s Golden! Let’s do that! That will provide at least 5 more years of market protection to the audiologist and hearing device industry in Canada. While Health Canada “considers” the pros and cons of deregulation of this market segment, just like the US has done over the last 5 years before they concluded the BENEFITS to American citizens outweighed any concerns. Is Health Canada really going to arrive at the opposite conclusion?


If this OTC hearing aid sale issue has been resolved to the benefit of US citizens, after strict review by US health experts, you figure Health Canada might move quickly to a similar decision? Or to at least, in the interim, back off of their patently misguided blocking of the latest AirPod OS upgrade within Canada? Close to 100 other countries recognize the obvious - the improved functionality is not making the AirPod into a “hearing aid” or “medical device”, and the upgrade has not been blocked from their citizens.


This sort of regulatory over-reach breeds contempt and cynicism of the important work that Health Canada performs each day.


It is also somewhat disappointing to know that for whatever reasons, Apple has been complicit in this madness by going along with the Health Canada position.


We must all write to Health Canada and also bring this to the attention of the media. The rationale of Health Canada will not withstand scrutiny from the public once known. I for one will be writing to CBC Marketplace because I believe this bureaucratic bungling is just the type that falls within the role that the TV show tries to fulfill on behalf of the public.


Thoughts?



Nov 7, 2024 1:03 PM in response to mulholland4

Here’s the response I got from my MP when I questioned why one company could sell OTC hearing aids while Apple cannot.


Dear Greg,


Thank you for your email.


My office did some digging into your issue, and this is what we’ve uncovered:


The devices listed in the Amazon link are technically considered “hearing amplifiers” and not “hearing aids,” therefore making them available for sale in Canada without being licenced by Heath Canada does not classify this as a “medical device.”


Hearing amplifiers and hearing aids are both devices that amplify sound, but they have different purposes, intended users and regulatory status:


Health Canada regulates hearing aids as “medical devices”, so the federal agency (Health Canada) would have to approve Over-the-Counter models for sale in Canada. Once they have been approved, it is up to the provinces to decide whether such hearing aids could be sold over the counter. For example, In British Columbia, provincial law says only a licenced audiologist can prescribe a hearing aid and prohibits providing anyone a hearing aid without a prescription.


According to the Medical Devices Regulations, Class II, III and IV devices must be licenced before they can be sold in Canada. Class I medical devices do not need to be licenced; however, the devices listed in your Amazon link are not considered to be “medical devices” and, therefore, do not need to be licenced for sale. 


Unfortunately, no company within Canada are able to provide hearing aids Over-the-Counter to our citizens at this time.


I hope this addresses your concerns and please do not hesitate to write to me in the future.


Sincerely,


Frank J. Caputo, MP

Kamloops-Thompson-Cariboo

Nov 12, 2024 4:02 PM in response to Lucster

I’m sorry Lucster - but this response makes zero sense, particularly after reading all of your other comments on this thread.


You say:


“The update to IOS and the AirPods firmware is not blocked in any way, shape, or form in Canada. What is blocked is the hearing aid functionality of the AirPods Pro by Apple …”


My point is this: you say the “hearing aid functionality is blocked by Apple”. But according to the Apple Store tech supervisor Genius that explained it to me in Vancouver, it is the IOS UPDATE that gives the AirPods that precise functionality!!! That is why the 18.1 update is “not available” in Canada, using GPS locating to prevent access to that update to the firmware for users of AirPods in Canada! Apple may be the one actually doing that - but the person I spoke to that the Government of Canada required that.


Makes zero sense that Apple would just voluntarily block the 18.1 IOS update without being told to do so by Health Canada. They would want to introduce this enhanced functionality to ALL of their IPod users!


AirPod pros are no more a “medical device” than they were before. Health Canada is overreaching - and should be called out in the loudest way for their anti-competitive and anti-consumer behavior.


If it’s good enough for the US regulatory authorities - it’s good enough for Canadian regulatory authorities.



Nov 19, 2024 9:50 AM in response to rasg

You mentioned in another post that you can get the "hearing aid functionality" with the Airpods Pro 2 without IOS 18.1 and without regard to where you are located.


Unfortunately, your “scenario” requires a workaround to do a hearing test with an app or to go to an audiologist, pay to get an audiogram and feed it to your iPhone to get it to adapt to your hearing specificities because your “scenario” does not give you access to the full Apple hearing test that comes with IOS 18.1. Furthermore, what you’re getting is very likely more akin to customized EQ than the actual hearing aid functionality that comes with IOS 18.1. How do you know whether you are getting the full hearing aid functionality of IOS 18.1 with your setup???


Your setup is undoubtedly better than nothing for countries that do not allow the sale of OTC hearing aids, where the full AirPods Pro 2 hearing aid functionality is blocked. But it is not a substitute for this functionality for millions who would benefit significantly from it at a reasonable cost.


Why would these millions of individuals be forced to go through any workaround because their country does not allow OTC sales of hearing aids? The issue is not finding a clever workaround that may or may not give users the full AirPods Pro 2 hearing aid functionality, but governments that should put an end to the audiologists-hearing aid manufacturers cartel and allow people to benefit from advances in technology to improve their day-to-day lives.

Nov 20, 2024 4:15 PM in response to mulholland4

Image 1. In Canada the Hearing Test feature is not on the menu. Image 2. In the United States and other countries the feature is activated and shows on the menu.


I'm trying to work out what your point is?


IOS 18.1 has added a geographical lock to the iPhone in Canada. And the UK too.


There are three ways to get around it.


  1. Wait until the Canadian authorities get around to granting approval for them.
  2. Find an Apple device that is still running in an older IOS than 18.1. Pick any one you like but 17 is absolutely fine and you can then set your AirPod Pros up as hearing aids using Headphone Accommodations. I use 17.7.1 and they work very well indeed and I have been using them for over six week. I'm in the UK and like Canada we are not on the list for approval either.
  3. I did see a couple of enterprising lads in India in the news yesterday who used a microwave oven as a Faraday cage to defeat the lock so their mum could use her Airpods. Quite how they did it wasn't revealed but I have no doubt it's possible.


The older IOS is the simplest way. IOS 18.1 gives some extra volume but apart from the difference in menus, not much is different and they work really well.

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