Phone Stolen from Brooklyn, NY now on Jiefang Road, Shenzhen, China

My phone was stolen, pick-pocketed, during a concert in Brooklyn NY on Nov 17th 2024.


I watched it go to Bushwick Brooklyn, then Rego Park Queens, Then Hong Kong, and now in Shenzhen China on a dead end road. I see there was a post from over 3 years ago of people reporting this from London.


When I left the concert almost 10 people had their phones stolen. Obviously nothing is being done about it.


They tried to activate my "Find My" last night almost a month later. Apple keeps saying the phone isn't usable if I marked it lost but obviously they are doing "something" with it.


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Posted on Dec 10, 2024 9:14 AM

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Posted on Dec 10, 2024 9:20 AM

It's not usable if you put it into Lost mode and or even just had a passcode on it. The thieves are trying to use it, but they will almost certainly not succeed. I'd recommend following the instructions Apple provides in this support article under the section for when you're sure you won't get the iPhone back (which if it's in China you certainly will not):


Find your lost iPhone or iPad - Apple Support


Regards.


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Dec 10, 2024 9:20 AM in response to Dylanlappin

It's not usable if you put it into Lost mode and or even just had a passcode on it. The thieves are trying to use it, but they will almost certainly not succeed. I'd recommend following the instructions Apple provides in this support article under the section for when you're sure you won't get the iPhone back (which if it's in China you certainly will not):


Find your lost iPhone or iPad - Apple Support


Regards.


Dec 10, 2024 9:23 AM in response to Dylanlappin

Apple keeps saying the phone isn't usable if I marked it lost but obviously they are doing "something" with it.


"They" are trying to get you to remove your phone from the list of devices using your Apple ID. "They" can't do anything with your phone unless you do this.


Thousands of stolen phones arrive at a huge remanufacturing plant in China. Not sure how much control Apple or anyone else would have over that.

Dec 30, 2024 12:23 PM in response to Dylanlappin

Dylanlappin wrote:

Yeh! What is actively being done, why does it constantly say Erase Pending, or Cancel Erase. Why is there not a way to see full confirmation that this phone is completly disabled and that all my info has been erased. After a month of disabling and erasing it, reporting the IMEI, it still pops up as my phone with my name.


If your iPhone does not have an Internet connection, but it has come close enough to another Apple device that this other device can hear a Bluetooth "Find My network" signal, that could explain what you are seeing.


Your iPhone has to be able to connect to the Internet to learn of an Erase request and to report back that it has acted on it. It probably doesn't know any of the Wi-Fi hotspots in China, and your U.S. carrier's cellular network also might be unavailable. But if Find My Network was turned on, your iPhone would send out Bluetooth signals for as long as it had a charge in the battery – even when turned off. If there were functioning Apple devices that were close enough (even ones belonging to the criminals, personally), they might hear those signals, and relay a location for Find My to show to you.


How do 100's or 1000's of phones end up at the same address or street year after year.


Criminals obviously have learned that this "reprocessing" plant is a place where they can "dispose of" Activation Locked, stolen iPhones. Probably not for anywhere near the same sort of money that a non-Activation-Locked and non-blacklisted iPhone would bring, but clearly someone thinks there is ill-gained loot to be had in the "chop up stolen iPhones for parts" business.


Of note: Apple to expand repair options with support for used genuine parts - Apple

"Apple will also extend its popular Activation Lock feature to iPhone parts in order to deter stolen iPhones from being disassembled for parts."

Dec 10, 2024 9:34 AM in response to Dylanlappin

Dylanlappin wrote:

Yeh! What is actively being done, why does it constantly say Erase Pending, or Cancel Erase. Why is there not a way to see full confirmation that this phone is completly disabled and that all my info has been erased. After a month of disabling and erasing it, reporting the IMEI, it still pops up as my phone with my name.

What, exactly’ “pops up” as your phone with your name?

The erase is pending because it hasn’t connected to the Internet to initiate the erase. It is still trackable using the find my network even if the device is powered off so long as there is a minimal battery charge.



How do 100's or 1000's of phones end up at the same address or street year after year.

It’s called “Organized Crime”. Probably State Sponsored.

Dec 30, 2024 11:33 AM in response to Dylanlappin

Hi, the exact same thing happened to me. Phone was stolen September 24th 2024, from Lucky Dog in Williamsburg, the guy was super shifty coked up guy. It then went to a bar in Manhattan, then a pawn shop in near 48th and 49th street. then it went to Bryant Park and then showed up at the same road you mentioned in Queens. Someone contacted me today saying my phone is about to be auctioned on the black market in China and they'll have all my data. Also got some two factor authentication requests from China. Reported to Apple and checked Find My iPhone, and guess where it is... Shenzen China. Clearly an organized effort from Queens to China. I'm going to file a new police report I guess that's all we can do, do the police care? Who knows, seems like a large scale white collar effort.

Dec 12, 2024 6:13 AM in response to Sprotch

Sprotch wrote:

Hi all

my iPhone was stolen a couple of weeks ago in London and is now appearing in Shenzhen. There is clearly an organised crime chain going on. What is Apple doing about it? Why is there a “lost” iPhone option, but no “stolen” option?
https://discussions.apple.com/content/attachment/b287f59b-e243-4361-adfb-fb9b7890bedd

Apple is not a law enforcement agency.


Even if there was a “stolen” option, it would not do anything different. The effect would be the same.

Dec 12, 2024 7:14 AM in response to Sprotch

Sprotch wrote:

Hi all

my iPhone was stolen a couple of weeks ago in London and is now appearing in Shenzhen. There is clearly an organised crime chain going on. What is Apple doing about it? Why is there a “lost” iPhone option, but no “stolen” option?


I'm not sure what you expect Apple to be able to do about it - they do as much as they can to make it unattractive for thieves to steal iPhones - but see the section titled "If your iPhone or iPad is lost permanently" in this support article:


Find your lost iPhone or iPad - Apple Support


Regards.



Dec 10, 2024 9:30 AM in response to KiltedTim

Yeh! What is actively being done, why does it constantly say Erase Pending, or Cancel Erase. Why is there not a way to see full confirmation that this phone is completly disabled and that all my info has been erased. After a month of disabling and erasing it, reporting the IMEI, it still pops up as my phone with my name.


How do 100's or 1000's of phones end up at the same address or street year after year.

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