Apple reads slected paragraphs in Mandarin even when set to speak Cantonese.

Since the day I got my i9 iMac and M3 iMac, both have been reading selected paragraphs in Cantonese, perfectly aligned with the system settings. However, after updating to macOS Sequoia 15.2, the text-to-speech function suddenly switched to Mandarin, even though the system is still set to Cantonese, as it had been working flawlessly on the i9 iMac for years. Did I make a mistake somewhere? How can I fix this issue? Your help would be greatly appreciated!




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iMac 24″, macOS 15.2

Posted on Dec 13, 2024 10:20 AM

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Dec 15, 2024 8:35 PM in response to sungyle

You may want to double-check your iMac's Language Settings:

See Apple support's online article for MacOS 15: Change the language your Mac uses - Apple Support for tips.

Eg: You can check that the correct language is set for the Mac.

If needed: You can check the correct language is set for a particular app.


If all the settings are correct in System Settings, and you still need help:

Try turning Cantonese off and back on, in Accessibility > Spoken Content.


Else: You may want to send feedback to Apple. They will likely not reply, yet your feedback will reach those who can make software changes. If others are also experiencing this issue, and Apple gets info. on which computers or devices are affected, we may see an update that addresses the issue : Website for: Product Feedback - Apple

Dec 20, 2024 9:20 AM in response to sungyle

sungyle wrote:

Thank you for the example—it’s very interesting.

What is your opinion of Google's Cantonese text to speech quality compared to Apple's?



What I need now is for my two iMacs to replicate that ability when I highlight a paragraph.

Would it work to just add Sonoma on your Mac's until Apple fixes Sequoia? I have both Sonoma and Sequoia running in separate volumes on my M3 iMac with no problems. I will probably keep working in Sonoma until Sequoia 15.6 or so in order to avoid bugs like this.



Feb 1, 2025 9:32 AM in response to Tom Gewecke

Thank you for your response. Unfortunately, I regret to inform you that it did not work. I checked System Settings > Accessibility > Spoken Content and ensured that the system speech language was set to Cantonese, with the system voice set to Sinji (Premium). I tested it, and it did indeed speak in Cantonese. I also verified that Pronunciations was enabled, Speak Selection was turned on, and then I rebooted the system.

Next, I confirmed that my Mac is running macOS Sequoia 15.3 (23D60). I then opened Notes, selected a small paragraph, chose Speech > Start Speaking, but to my disappointment, it read the text in Mandarin instead of Cantonese.

I am deeply disappointed. But until Apple returns to the USA, all I can do is hope and pray that they will make Apple great again.








Eddie

Dec 16, 2024 10:00 AM in response to brbo

Thank you very much.

I really don’t want to change the preferred language of my macOS because it would switch System Preferences, Finder, and built-in apps like Mail and Safari to Cantonese. I prefer to keep using English for all these functions.

All I want is for my iMacs (both i9 and M3) to read paragraphs aloud in Cantonese. I can understand spoken Cantonese, but I struggle to read the text.

I’ve been doing this without any issues for years, but the problem started with macOS Sequoia. I’ve already sent feedback to Apple, but as you mentioned, nothing has come of it. I’ve submitted the bug report again and can only hope for a resolution.

With the decline of Hong Kong, perhaps Apple has let go of their Cantonese-speaking developers? I don’t know, but it’s deeply disappointing.

Dec 16, 2024 11:29 AM in response to sungyle

Thank you kindly for your thoughtful reply, and the added info. Sorry you still have that problem. Thank you too, to Tom Gewecke, for joining the discussion ... this well-respected Community member with expertise in languages software is a God-send!

It may help to know which app the paragraphs come from (eg: News?)

Dec 18, 2024 7:30 AM in response to Tom Gewecke

I don’t use Google Translate because I can handle the translation myself.

Often, after writing something in Chinese, I like to have the computer read it aloud to me. This helps me gauge how it will sound to a listener and understand their potential reaction.

Since the piece is already written in Chinese, there’s no need for Google Translate.

Dec 20, 2024 8:05 AM in response to Tom Gewecke

Thank you for the example—it’s very interesting. I’ve been speaking Cantonese for more than three-quarters of a century and can express anything in perfect Cantonese. I can even sing Cantonese opera in a way that ensures the audience understands the lyrics without needing subtitles.

What I need now is for my two iMacs to replicate that ability when I highlight a paragraph. They used to do this perfectly for the past decade, but it seems the programmer responsible for that feature either retired or became a billionaire and left the company.

Unfortunately, there’s a broader issue at play. The Communist Party despises Cantonese because Hong Kong was the one group of people brave enough to challenge them. Once they gain control of any organization, their first move is often to suppress anything related to Cantonese, quietly replacing experienced individuals with untrained employees. As a result, the quality deteriorates without most people even noticing.

This reminds me of how the quality of Apple products, like the iMacs made in China, pales in comparison to earlier models like the Apple IIe or Apple IIC. The lost quality often lies in subtle, hidden areas that only a few know how to spot. It’s a shame to see Apple’s standards decline this way, and I feel genuinely sorry for the company.

Dec 20, 2024 3:01 PM in response to Tom Gewecke

I genuinely appreciate how you’ve acknowledged this as a legitimate issue and provided multiple thoughtful solutions—thank you for that.

However, I would like to clarify that I’m using an Apple computer. My journey with Apple started years ago with the TRS-80, then the Apple IIe, followed by the Apple Iic, which was like a laptop at the time. I later switched to the IBM PC until 2006, when I returned to Apple with a MacBook Pro. Since then, I’ve continued to stay loyal to Apple, upgrading through five more systems.

To me, adding Sonoma to Sequoia feels somewhat like buying a BMW but needing to tow a Honda to get certain tasks done. As someone who deeply admires Steve Jobs and the innovative legacy he left behind, I hope Apple will continue to uphold its standards. Perhaps one day, Apple will reconsider its reliance on China and once again embody the excellence and independence that make it truly remarkable.

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