Can the Apple miniDisplayPort-DVI adapter be used with a 2018 Mac mini?

I have an Apple miniDisplayPort-to-DVI adapter that I have used for many years with my 2014 Mac mini. It plugs into one of the Thunderbolt 2 ports on the back of the 2014 mini and connects to my Sony TV. It works perfectly.


Can it be used with a 2018 Mac mini that has Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C) ports? I assume it would need to be daisy-chained with the Apple Thunderbolt 3/USB-C to Thunderbolt 2 adapter? (The TB3 USB-C ports on the 2018 mini support DVI.)


The Apple support page for the TB3-TB2 adapter says it is "not compatible with displays that use DisplayPort or Mini DisplayPort" ... which seems to indicate that it does not pass through a DP/MDP signal ... but in my case I'm using DVI. The doc doesn't say anything one way or another about DVI support.


Does anyone know if the TB3-to-TB2 adapter can pass through the DVI video signal?


Mac mini (2018)

Posted on Jan 28, 2025 2:33 PM

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Jan 28, 2025 3:20 PM in response to MartinR

No the Mini DisplayPort adapter will not work with the 2018 Mac mini.


Also are you sure about the TV's input connection..?

Because it seems like the Sony TV should have HDMI input and not DVI input.



For a TV with HDMI input you will need is a USB-C to HDMI adapter.

https://www.amazon.com/Adapter-BENFEI-Thunderbolt-Compatible-MacBook/dp/B08KWG243P/ref=asc_df_B08KWG243P?


For a Monitor or TV with DVI input you will need a USB-C to DVI adapter.

https://www.amazon.com/Thunderbolt-Adapter-Converter-Compatible-MacBook/dp/B0768RFQ83/ref=asc_df_B0768RFQ83?


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Jan 28, 2025 5:29 PM in response to den.thed

den.thed wrote:
Also are you sure about the TV's input connection..?
Because it seems like the Sony TV should have HDMI input and not DVI input.

You are correct, the connection to the Sony TV is HDMI. I am using a DVI-HDMI cable to connect the DVI end of the adapter to one of the HDMI inputs on the Sony TV. (DVI and HDMI are electrically identical, so a cable with the correct connector on each end works.)


Here's the backstory. When I first got the 2014 mini and cabled its HDMI port to one of the Sony TV's HDMI inputs, the colors & contrast were off, the picture was grainy and no adjustments in the mini or the TV were able to overcome it. At the time, some research suggested that the mini's MDP/DVI LUT was different from its HDMI LUT; or perhaps the video drivers were different. So, in an attempt to work around the problems I bought the adapter and a DVI-HDMI cable. That setup has worked without needing any adjustments - the picture is perfect, the colors & contrast don't need any adjustments - so that's what I have used ever since.


Once I receive the 2018 mini that I just ordered I'll try it with a direct HDMI connection. But I wanted to be prepared in case there is a repeat of my experience with the 2014 mini. (And because Apple doesn't make a TB3/USB-C to DVI adapter, I wanted to see if there was a way to reuse the adapter that I already have in combination with the TB3/TB2 adapter.)

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Jan 29, 2025 8:20 AM in response to MartinR

Apologies MartinR.

I failed to recognize that you were the OP in my second post.


If that Sony TV is the only display connected to the 2018 Mac Mini..?

Then just use an HDMI to HDMI cable from the Mac mini to the Sony TV.


If you are doing a dual display setup and both require HDMI input..?

Then use an HDMI cable for one and a USB-C to HDMI adapter to the other.


Again I do not recommend cobbling old Mini DisplayPort adapters into the later setup.

FWIW I have several old Mini DisplayPort adapters that I keep around for troubleshooting old Mac's.

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Jan 29, 2025 4:48 AM in response to MartinR

MartinR wrote:

I have an Apple miniDisplayPort-to-DVI adapter that I have used for many years with my 2014 Mac mini. It plugs into one of the Thunderbolt 2 ports on the back of the 2014 mini and connects to my Sony TV. It works perfectly.

Can it be used with a 2018 Mac mini that has Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C) ports?


Possibly, but I wouldn't. Just get a USB-C to DVI adapter. The description of the Apple adapter indicates that it "supports display resolutions up to 1920 x 1200", which means that it is a single-link adapter. Plenty of those.


https://www.amazon.com/s?k=usb-c+to+dvi+adapter


[EDIT: Better yet, get a USB-C to HDMI adapter, given that the TV has a HDMI input.]


https://www.amazon.com/s?k=usb-c+to+hdmi+adapter


I assume it would need to be daisy-chained with the Apple Thunderbolt 3/USB-C to Thunderbolt 2 adapter?


No! Old Macs are set up so that their Thunderbolt 1 or 2 ports, which have Mini DisplayPort connectors, can act either as Thunderbolt ports or as Mini DisplayPort ones, depending on what is plugged in. That adapter doesn't know how to present a plain Mini DisplayPort signal on its Thunderbolt 2 side.


Or, as Apple says in the article to which you linked,

[The Apple Mini DisplayPort adapters] "don't work with the Apple Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C) to Thunderbolt 2 Adapter, which doesn't support Mini DisplayPort displays."


If you insist on daisy-chaining, get a third-party USB-C to Mini DisplayPort (female) adapter. They cost a lot less than that Apple TB3-to-2 adapter. I still think going from USB-C to DVI or HDMI in one step is the way to go.


The Apple support page for the TB3-TB2 adapter says it is "not compatible with displays that use DisplayPort or Mini DisplayPort" ... which seems to indicate that it does not pass through a DP/MDP signal ... but in my case I'm using DVI.


The Apple Support page is correct.


The adapter only translates Thunderbolt. Video will only appear on the TB2 side as Thunderbolt-encapsulated video. That is what the old 27" Apple Thunderbolt Display (model A1407) wants to see. While Apple does not mention it, if you had an old powered Thunderbolt 1 or 2 dock, and connected it to the adapter, that dock could probably get a video signal to offer on a DisplayPort or HDMI port.


But your Mini DisplayPort to DVI adapter does not speak Thunderbolt. Connect it directly to the TB2 side of the Apple TB3-to-2 adapter and you will be feeding it a signal that it cannot possibly understand or use.

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Jan 29, 2025 9:19 AM in response to den.thed

Thanks, everyone. I'll get a USB-C to DVI adapter just in case; they are inexpensive enough.


The mini is the video streaming server in my home theater, so the Sony TV is the only display connected to it. I am about to replace the 2014 mini (i5, 8GB, High Sierra) with a 2018 mini (i7, 32GB, Sonoma) in order to get a few more years use out of the setup before I have to spend real money on an Apple Silicon mini.

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Jan 29, 2025 10:03 AM in response to MartinR

MartinR wrote:

Thanks, everyone.

You're welcome.

I'll get a USB-C to DVI adapter just in case; they are inexpensive enough.

Doing a USB-C to DVI adapter and then using the old DVI to HDMI adapter is counter productive.

It will do noting except cause connection problems and lower output resolutions.

The mini is the video streaming server in my home theater, so the Sony TV is the only display connected to it. I am about to replace the 2014 mini (i5, 8GB, High Sierra) with a 2018 mini (i7, 32GB, Sonoma) in order to get a few more years use out of the setup before I have to spend real money on an Apple Silicon mini.

Again, that setup should work fine using a good quality HDMI cable between the Mac mini and TV.

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Jan 29, 2025 4:27 PM in response to den.thed

den.thed wrote:
Again, that setup should work fine using a good quality HDMI cable between the Mac mini and TV.

I agree, and I prefer a direct HDMI-HDMI connection between the 2018 mini and the Sony TV. If the HDMI-HDMI connection is fine, I don't plan to go any further. But if the picture turns out degraded as happened with the 2014 mini, I will at least try a USB-C to DVI adapter with the DVI-HDMI cable to see if it's any better that way.


Once I have the 2018 mini in place, I'll circle back to let you know how things turned out.


A couple of notes - 1 - I get an excellent picture on my 46" Sony TV with the DVI-HDMI setup and have never had any connection problems; with some streaming sources I'd swear it's even 4K but I know that DVI doesn't do 4K; the point is that the picture is really good. 2- all the cables are very good quality cables, I don't skimp on them.


cheers,

MartinR

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Feb 24, 2025 12:43 PM in response to MartinR

OK, here's part 1 of my experience with a 2018 Mac mini & my Sony Bravia 40" 1080p TV (KDL40Z4100).


1 - Connected directly via HDMI. The picture is rough - not exactly fuzzy or grainy, but not fully sharp. It's not so bad that I couldn't get used to it, I suppose, but the picture should be sharp. Some research points to this being a known problem with newer Macs connected to 1080p displays & TVs. I read some suggestions about using Terminal to disable "HiDPI" but I really don't want to mess with the system that way.


The bigger problem was that I could not see the menu strip at the top of the screen. After some fiddling around, I discovered the Overscan setting in Displays, and that fixed the problem ... but only temporarily. The setting would not stick after rebooting, and that's apparently a known, longstanding problem.


2 - Connected via USB-C DVI adapter + DVI-HDMI cable. Same issues as with HDMI. But with my 2014 mini, using a DVI adapter cleared up the sharpness & color issues.


I consulted the manual for the TV and found a setting in the TV for "Full Pixel" which is intended to fix overscan with connected computers. When I set this in the TV, I got the full image of the Mac's screen. And this setting sticks. It also seems to have sharpened the image a bit, but not fully to my satisfaction.


Next up ... trying this with my 4K TV (49" Sony Bravia TV XBR-49X900E); will report back after working on it.

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Feb 24, 2025 4:26 PM in response to MartinR

Keep up the good work. You'll only figure out what works the best, by trying different things.


At this point I'll add, that not all HDMI cables are created equal.

Best bet is to use the shortest possible Certified High Speed HDMI cable.

Stay away from long cheap HDMI cables that are made for DVD players or cable boxes.

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