Bizarre behavior of older MacBook Pro -- auto-restarts, auto shut downs. Diagnosis?

Having extreme problems with an older MacBook Pro (6,2 -- mid-2010). Worked perfectly fine until a week ago when it suddenly would (at first) just turn "off" randomly -- not a formal shut down, but the screen would just instantly go black, and then it would just turn off, as if it was a desktop computer that had been unplugged. Pressing the power button would then cause it to start up again, reloading the OS from scratch. Strangely, though, it never displayed a "This Mac was shut down improperly" error warning, as what would happen if this was a kernel-panic freeze.


This issue then escalated until it didn't just "turn off" randomly, but would also sometimes restart itself randomly -- even when not being used and just sitting there, the screen would again instantly turn black and then the restart chimes would sound, and it would restart from scratch, even though I hadn't even touched the computer.


This escalated even further to the point where it would only be able remain "on" for 15 minutes at most, before either turning off or restarting without explanation or cause. This occurred whether or not it was plugged in, whether or not I was using it, whatever the battery charge was, and would even happen if I had put it to "Sleep." The length of time it remained on was random, not always the same number of minutes.


Further escalation as of two days ago led to it not reliably or consistently turning back on when the power button was pressed. Sometimes it would take multiple attempts at pressing the power button before finally starting up.


Thinking it might be a problem with the System or the software., I ran "Disk Utility" several times to "Repair Permissions," which the program seemed to do successfully. Whenever I ran Disk Utility, it always seemed to find new problems to fix, but always did so apparently successfully. But even after multiple Disk Utility fixes, the same problem persisted.


Thinking the issue might be a dead battery, I just replaced the old worn-out battery with a brand new one, installed it successfully, and turned the computer on -- and everything was fine, the new battery was accepted, recognized and functioning -- until after just 5 minutes the computer once again just went black and turned itself off. But now -- it won't turn on, even though I have now attempted to press the power button over 20 separate times.


So, what is causing this behavior? If it's not a battery issue, and not a software/system issue, then what is it?


Could this be the cause?: Some time ago, the connector cable for one of the two cooling fans inside the case got torn, and possibly no longer supplies power to one of the fans. Could this one issue with the motherboard cause the entire computer to cease functioning?


Any ideas, clues, suggestions or recommendations greatly appreciated. I will answer any questions if needed for clarification.

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Posted on Feb 7, 2025 12:03 PM

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Feb 7, 2025 5:46 PM in response to Tuffy Nicolas

You're very welcome.


Given all of the symptoms that you described in your original post, I believe the logic board to be highly suspect.

And yes, with one of the cooling fans being inoperative it is possible that the cpu or gpu have overheated one too many times, or that the logic board has suffered some other heat cycling damage. The cause of the problem could be any number of things that can go wrong with a logic board. But yes, I do believe this is a hardware and not a software issue.


I'll wish you good luck on this journey, my friend. 🍀

Feb 7, 2025 12:21 PM in response to Tuffy Nicolas

Tuffy Nicolas wrote:

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So, what is causing this behavior? If it's not a battery issue, and not a software/system issue, then what is it?

Could this be the cause?: Some time ago, the connector cable for one of the two cooling fans inside the case got torn, and possibly no longer supplies power to one of the fans. Could this one issue with the motherboard cause the entire computer to cease functioning?

Any ideas, clues, suggestions or recommendations greatly appreciated. I will answer any questions if needed for clarification.


Your MBP is fifteen (!) years old!

Fifteen years is a great run for any computer.

It's old, obsolete, worn out and it wants to retire.

You should throw a party and let it. 🥳


Recommend you don't spend any more money on this computer.

Even the software that it runs (ran) is obsolete.


It's time to bite the bullet and replace that old workhorse.

A new MacBook Air will run rings around that 2010 MBP. Go shopping! 😉

Feb 7, 2025 2:47 PM in response to Tuffy Nicolas

Yes. It is easy and straightforward to pull the drive from that era laptop.

You can see guidance for doing that here at macsales.com.


If for some reason you wanted to copy or clone that drive, I'd suggest you use the Time Machine application already installed in Mac OS X. I'm not sure if a Firewire external case would be required for that or just USB, but I know that MBP has both. I believe a Time Machine backup created with that OS would also be a bootable backup should anything go wrong with the internal drive.

Feb 7, 2025 12:35 PM in response to Tuffy Nicolas

You can pull the drive from the computer and then connect it to your new one with either a drive adapter cable or external enclosure. If that is the original internal drive, then it's also fifteen years old and not long for this world. Don't plan to keep it beyond however long it takes you to retrieve the data from it.


Guidance for pulling that drive can be found here at macsales.com. It's a easy, straightforward task.

Feb 7, 2025 12:51 PM in response to Tuffy Nicolas

Tuffy Nicolas wrote:

It's a long story, but for complicated reasons, I want to keep this computer running its obsolete OS.[...] this particular device is kept around specifically because it is able to run the old software.

Believe me, my friend, I understand all of your reasoning. I managed to keep my first Mac, a Mac Plus from '86. But I let it retire. You are now experiencing the pain associated with keeping the old tech alive, and I wish you well with that.




Aside from "throw the old computer away and get a new one," any way to repair/fix/revive this particular machine? If I need to get a new motherboard, where could I obtain one? Apple doesn't make them any more, and Apple won't work on/fix obsolete devices either. But do I even need to get a new motherboard?

Rather than repair that problematic laptop, you should consider simply replacing it with another working Mac of the same vintage. I would suggest perhaps a Mac mini if not another MBP. And depending on which version of Mac OS X the MBP was running, you may even find something newer that is compatible. I'm sure you can find a suitable replacement for a reasonable outlay if you look carefully.


So, which version of the OS was it running?

Feb 7, 2025 12:34 PM in response to D.I. Johnson

It's a long story, but for complicated reasons, I want to keep this computer running its obsolete OS. (First reason: It's a shared family computer, and some users absolutely insist on keeping the old OS on this particular device. Second reason: It has some specialty third-party programs from long ago that only run on this OS, but not on any more recent OS, and for which there are no modern replacement programs. There are other reasons as well....) I actually already own other Macs that run more recent versions of MacOS; this particular device is kept around specifically because it is able to run the old software.


Aside from "throw the old computer away and get a new one," any way to repair/fix/revive this particular machine? If I need to get a new motherboard, where could I obtain one? Apple doesn't make them any more, and Apple won't work on/fix obsolete devices either. But do I even need to get a new motherboard?

Feb 7, 2025 1:52 PM in response to D.I. Johnson

10.6.8.


Mac OS 10.6.8 is famously the very last and "most recent" MacOS that would run on many older machines, and the last OS compatible with almost all antique-level old third-party software. Starting with 10.7, "everything changed" and all old hardware and software had to be abandoned.


So yes, what I would want is the very bestest/fastest/newest Apple laptop computer that can still natively run OS 10.6.8 as its boot-up operating system.


I realize that any such computer would necessarily be itself absolutely obsolete, but within the realm of obsolete devices, I'd want the best one. It could very well be that the laptop I do have (MacBook Pro 6,2 mid-2010) already is the best I can do -- I just don't know.

Feb 7, 2025 2:22 PM in response to Tuffy Nicolas

Any of these Macs can run 10.6.8 Snow Leopard. They will be the newest of the vintage breed that can.

The three MBPs and the iMacs are a year newer than yours.


• MacBookPro8,1 13" early-2011

• MacBookPro8,2 15" early-2011

• MacBookPro8,3 17" early-2011


• MacBookAir3,1 11" late-2010

• MacBookAir3,2 13" late-2010


• iMac12,1 21.5" mid-2011

• iMac12,2 27" mid-2011


• Macmini4,1 mid-2010


Now you know! 🙂

Feb 7, 2025 4:50 PM in response to D.I. Johnson

Thanks. I guess the main info I needed would be: Would a hard drive removed from a 6,2 fit into and be compatible with (hardware, firmware, software-wise) an 8,2 machine? Sometimes there are tiny differences or issues that might prevent putting a drive from one generation MacBook into the machine of another generation, even if the two computers are the same apparent "size." And once installed, would the new 8,2 machine boot up off that 6,2 drive as if it was its native built-in drive?

Feb 7, 2025 5:31 PM in response to D.I. Johnson

OK, thanks very much for all the info.


I still have no idea what is causing the bizarre behavior of my existing MacBook Pro, but now at least I know I can, if necessary, start over with a whole new physical machine, swap drives, and simply keep using my same hard drive (with all its files and software and OS intact) in the new machine as if nothing has changed. I don't really care about the hardware -- what I want to retain is all the data and software and settings etc. extant on the drive. It has decades worth of personal files, esoteric software, customizations, extensions, shareware, shortcuts, etc., from multiple users on it.


I'll try for a little longer to figure out the problem, and if no success, just buy a replacement MacBook Pro 6,2 or 8,2, put the old drive into it, and hopefully continue on my merry way!

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