Why square photos are only 4284 and not 5712

All camera lenses are round. So, I am wondering why, when I take a Square photo with my iPhone 16Pro (using the normal lens), my Square photos is only 4284 pixels x 4284 pixels. When I take a landscape photo it is 5712 x 4284 and a portrait photo is 4284 x 5712.  If 5712 is the max pixels the lens can capture, why isn’t my Square photo 5712 x 5712?

Plus, the landscape and portrait photos are 24 MP, but the square photos are only 18 MP. 

BTW, it doesn’t matter if the square photo is taken while holding the iPhone vertically or horizontally.

Can anyone explain this? Please?!? 

iPhone 16 Pro, iOS 18

Posted on Feb 23, 2025 8:48 AM

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Posted on Feb 23, 2025 9:26 AM

Gar Benedick wrote: All camera lenses are round.

You might consider taking a nice course in Physics!


The shape of the lens has nothing to do with the shape of the image. It's round, in part, so you can use the camera in any rotational orientation.

When I take a landscape photo it is 5712 x 4284 pixels

That's the size of the sensor, 24.7 MB. The sensor is rectangular, 5712 pixels across by 4284 pixels wide.

my Square photos is only 4284 pixels x 4284 pixels

That's right-- to make a square picture, you cut off 714 pixels from each side, so what's left is 4284 x 4284.

why isn’t my Square photo 5712 x 5712?

Because there are only 4284 pixels top to bottom of the sensor. You can't just attach an extra 714 pixels to the top and bottom--with tape?

Plus, the landscape and portrait photos are 24 MP, but the square photos are only 18 MP. 

Right again-- to turn a rectangle into a square, you have to cut off some pixels.

BTW, it doesn’t matter if the square photo is taken while holding the iPhone vertically or horizontally.
Can anyone explain this? Please?!? 

Square, pretty much by definition, is the same if you turn it 90°.

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Feb 23, 2025 9:26 AM in response to Gar Benedick

Gar Benedick wrote: All camera lenses are round.

You might consider taking a nice course in Physics!


The shape of the lens has nothing to do with the shape of the image. It's round, in part, so you can use the camera in any rotational orientation.

When I take a landscape photo it is 5712 x 4284 pixels

That's the size of the sensor, 24.7 MB. The sensor is rectangular, 5712 pixels across by 4284 pixels wide.

my Square photos is only 4284 pixels x 4284 pixels

That's right-- to make a square picture, you cut off 714 pixels from each side, so what's left is 4284 x 4284.

why isn’t my Square photo 5712 x 5712?

Because there are only 4284 pixels top to bottom of the sensor. You can't just attach an extra 714 pixels to the top and bottom--with tape?

Plus, the landscape and portrait photos are 24 MP, but the square photos are only 18 MP. 

Right again-- to turn a rectangle into a square, you have to cut off some pixels.

BTW, it doesn’t matter if the square photo is taken while holding the iPhone vertically or horizontally.
Can anyone explain this? Please?!? 

Square, pretty much by definition, is the same if you turn it 90°.

Feb 24, 2025 12:25 AM in response to Richard.Taylor

Dear Richard.Taylor,


Thank you for your enlightenment!  However, I don’t appreciate being talked to like an idiot.  Just because you have over 12,00 points doesn’t mean you have the right to be unkind to anyone here.


All you would have had to say was that even though the lens is round, the sensor that captures the image is rectangular.  Consequently, the sensor can only capture a maximum of 4284 pixel in the shortest dimension, therefore, a square image can be no larger than 4284 x 4284.  End of story…


I mistakenly was assuming the sensor itself was square.


And for your information, and anyone else’s that reads this post, “The round shape of camera lenses is a direct consequence of optical engineering. Lenses, by their very nature, focus light in a circular pattern, ensuring even light distribution and minimizing optical aberrations. Images are rectangular because sensors/film are cut that way for manufacturing efficiency and practicality in display and storage. The rectangular format also aligns with our wider-than-tall field of vision.”


Thank you!

Feb 24, 2025 2:25 AM in response to Gar Benedick

It is strange, but the tech specs for the iPhone 16 do not even mention the aspect ratio of the sensor, whether it is square or 4 to 3. iPhone 16 Pro and 16 Pro Max - Technical Specifications - Apple

It does only describe the resolution as 48MP for the Pro camera system.

Assuming a 4:3 aspect ratio of the sensor it would mean 8000 x 6000 pixel.


Have you tried to enable Pro Raw in the Settings > Camera to be able to use the full 48 MP resolution? And at least 6000x6000 square photos?




Feb 24, 2025 5:16 AM in response to léonie

Léonie,


Yes, using ProMax (or HEIF Max) in 48 MP, the pixel dimension is 8064 x 6048 and a square image would then be 6048 x 6048.

Interestingly, ProMax file is 90.7 MP where a HEIF Max File is only 6.8 MP. I have not done any post work on either, so I am not aware of any possible difference in quality between the two.


Thank you for pointing the ProMax out to me.

Feb 24, 2025 6:41 AM in response to Gar Benedick

Gar Benedick wrote: … However, I don’t appreciate being talked to like an idiot.  Just because you have over 12,00 points doesn’t mean you have the right to be unkind to anyone here.

Sorry.

“The round shape of camera lenses is a direct consequence of optical engineering.

In fact, lenses can be any shape. It's not unusual for lenses to be rectangular. Magnifiers often use a rectangular shape, since they are almost always used in the same orientation.

So the shape is a consequence of engineering choices.

Lenses, by their very nature, focus light in a circular pattern,

A lens, by its very nature, focuses the light from a tree in a tree pattern.

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