UPDATE: someone turned on automatic update on my iphone
please check your phone if you do not want to be updated
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Original Title: UPDATE with constructive information
iPhone SE (3rd generation)
Pat Schaefer wrote:
I never saw a screen like that before
so it turns the security update on
how then does the IOS update get turned on too?
That is the confirmation screen following any iOS update to let you know the update was successful. Like most users, you probably just clicked continue without reading any of the information on that screen. It will turn on both Security Updates AND iOS Updates after the install and like the screen says, it is up to you to go into Settings and turn those off. That will prevent a future iOS update. I do suspect at one time you did turn it Off, but a manual update was performed that turned it back on and were unaware that happened as stated in the update confirmation screen.
The iOS update is the version number like 18.6 and if a Security Update is applied, it will be followed by a letter as seen in the example provided in the link. That could look something like 18.6 (a).
Pat Schaefer wrote:
My screen said, I quote:
"CONTINUE"
nothing else
the update had been downloaded without my knowledge
and installed
the iPhone was asking if I wanted to continue with the SETUP
You know pick a floating language etc. etc.
the screen you are so proud of has never been on my iPhone.
and why the article could not be linked here?
WHY are you continuing your crusade here with other users? What part of this is a user to user ONLY forum don't you understand, where no one here works for Apple, is associated with Apple and can't speak for Apple?
And if you had a link removed, it was removed by moderators and we can't speak for them either. But things are removed when they violate the Terms of Use you agreed to when you joined the forum.
There is truly no reason to continue your crusade here. We can't help you. We can't change anything about how Apple does anything. I provided a link earlier you can use to share your thoughts with Apple. Continuing to complain here is pointless and will get you nothing.
Pat Schaefer wrote:
the screen you are so proud of has never been on my iPhone.
The screenshot was in the article you linked. Read it again and it says exactly what we are telling you. I understand you did not see it, but even the article you linked said it is there, so not sure if you are disagreeing with me or the article you linked.
Pat Schaefer wrote:
MY SUMMARY IS INCORRECT
There is NOTHING in the Apple support web pages
that takes user choice out of setting software update settings.
the "screenshot" is contradicted by the apple support pages.
Sigh........what part of this is a user to user only forum don't you get? We have told you repeatedly this, yet you keep posting on this topic, when no one else seems to care. This is my last comment on this. If you don't like how Apple does updates, tell Apple. Continuing to complain about this here is simply, utterly, totally, completely pointless. For the last time, use this link if you want Apple to hear you --> Feedback - iPhone - Apple
You can of course keep up your crusade. But I along with the other senior members of this forum, will surely ignore further posts you make.
I am not asking you to change anything
as experts in all things apple
and/or experienced apple users
I would like for someone to show me
in the apple support pages
where it says I cannot set the software update choices
any way I want
or
where it says apple does not allow.
do you think the latter is true?
why?
Pat Schaefer wrote:
I am not asking you to change anything
as experts in all things apple
and/or experienced apple users
I would like for someone to show me
in the apple support pages
where it says I cannot set the software update choices
any way I want
or
where it says apple does not allow.
do you think the latter is true?
why?
Why do you think we as users, have ANY responsibility to search anything for you? You're just sadly, unapologetically wasting our time. If you want confirmation, we've told you to contact Apple. We don't get paid anything to research anything for users.
I can and I have
"everyone" on this thread seems to believe
I do not have full choice on software update settings
I can find no where in the Apple support pages
that does not support FULL users choice
so I wonder what I am missing?
why do you believe I do not have full control over those settings?
These two things were shared with me by community fellows:
The "Continue" * panel
and
this link to the SRS software update option
About Rapid Security Responses for iOS, iPadOS, and macOS - Apple Support
I have just marked these as helpful.
I thought they both supported the idea that
The newly added SRS software update option was MANDATORY
(not an option at all).
I have never seen the "Continue" * panel
nothing more to be done there
but anyone can access the apple support pages.
I saw that the archive has 85 snapshots of those pages
beginning in December 2023 up to present.
I thought maybe these pages had changed since the beginning
and sought to see what and when.
I was surprised to see they had not changed at all.
So I decided to look at it more closely.
I was surprised to find that it described the
SRS software update option was TOTALLY OPTIONAL.
I now plan to inform the apple webmaster that these pages
are likely incorrect and ask him to please update them
so apple users are not misinformed.
Will keep you posted.
Pretty much no way to contact webmaster about pages.
left feedback above.
called support have a case number
first level could find nothing in his scripts
set up phone
for what it's worth she said no update without permission
she send off somewhere ( >null)
maybe they will get back …
I told them I am only interested
in updating web page
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Thanks
but still
"If you manually updated iOS and
have RSR and iOS updated turned off,
both of those settings will be turned on"
how does that make any sense?
you manually update and that turns on automatic updates
I have 3 iPhones 4 iPads
I have never seen the "Continue" * panel
miss once maybe, twice careless, but 6 times, I don't think so
and where is this behavior documented
the SRS page says nothing like it at all
the article I referenced used the word "sneaky"
probably that's what got it kicked out
but how would you describe
you manually update and that turns on automatic updates
I just have to disagree
NOBODY BUT NOBODY
manually downloads and installs an update
expecting it will turn subsequent updates on automatic.
it just does not follow
it is …
and we are still unable to point to this behavior documented anywhere on the support pages
just an ephemeral ghost of a warning that flashes by
the SRS webpage would have been the perfect spot to document
but instead it emphasizes CHOICE
not choose manual and get automatic.
just an ephemeral ghost of a warning that flashes by"
It is documented on the actual device after it has been updated. That is the best place to let users know that further updates will be done automatically unless changed by you. Why would it be better to not tell the user after the update and have them search for the answer on a Support Page.
The page certainly does not flash by and requires user interaction to press the "Continue" button. I can't help the fact that you did not see this page after the update, as it has been documented here in the Screenshots and also on the lifehacker page you referenced. The only way it would flash by is if a user tapped "Continue" without reading anything on the page. It is not a long read and simply says: "Future software updates will be automatically downloaded and installed for you as they are released. You can manage this in Software Update settings."
Why? There has not been an RSR update since 2023 and that is not what turns on Automatic Updates.
So you are saying ANY & ALL IOS updates reset the software updates to automatic
man that’s nutz.
but I can test that.
I think we are done here
I know what your story is
I don’t agree with it
but let’s see what the apple guys say.
will probably take a while to get a response
Pat Schaefer wrote:
"it has been documented here in the Screenshots and also on the lifehacker page you referenced."
dude, its the same screenshot, not a second independent one.
Dude, seriously? What is the point in continuing to argue about this here?
IdrisSeabright wrote:
Pat Schaefer wrote:
"it has been documented here in the Screenshots and also on the lifehacker page you referenced."
dude, its the same screenshot, not a second independent one.
Dude, seriously? What is the point in continuing to argue about this here?
Classic "iT"
Pat Schaefer wrote:
"it has been documented here in the Screenshots and also on the lifehacker page you referenced."
dude, its the same screenshot, not a second independent one.
Well, if I knew that was the only problem, here is the one you see when updating to iOS 18.5.
How can I disable automatic updates on my iPhone?
