cadence (accelerometer?) does work in running and walking activities

Hi all,

got a new iphone 17 pro recently and found out that cadence tracking doesn't work in all running apps that I've tried. What happens: When I start running it takes 8 seconds for cadence to show at all in these apps. When I do a speed interval it again takes 8 seconds for the cadence to display a higher number, and again 8 seconds after slowing down to display a lower number. Sometimes when I vary my pace just a bit the cadence is just stuck. I think this data mostly comes from the internal accelerometer? The GPS track, and pace curves look good. Below an example with just a short walk with an even smaller run, but basically: All my running data is useless now and I can't use cadence anymore as a metric during running. Grey: pace, orange: cadence.


I tried solving this with Apple support, but the concept of cadence is apparently difficult to understand and everyone insists that steps are tracked. Yeah, that's not what I'm interested in. Also, support insists I show this fault with an app developed by Apple. There isn't one that shows cadence if one doesn't have a watch as far as I could find out.


I wonder whether this is a hardware or a software error. Considering I see the same error across several apps, and considering I don't see complains about this online I wonder whether my new phone is a lemon. But how can I insist on an exchange if Apple doesn't even understand what my problem is and insists on an own app showing this problem?


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iPhone 17 Pro

Posted on Oct 8, 2025 4:37 AM

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Oct 8, 2025 1:33 PM in response to Jeff Donald

There are no apps developed by apple that utilize cadence in any way, unless one has an apple watch. Which I don't have. Thus there's nothing I can do here. I updated my 13 mini now to the latest firmware just to see whether it's a firmware issue. It's not. The old phone still works as expected. The new one can't deal with cadence using the phone-internal sensors. App developers I contacted said they've not heard anything odd yet.

Oct 8, 2025 12:17 PM in response to orbitolina

Are you referring to Apple developed apps or apps developed by independent developers? Apple support can’t tell you how best to utilize an app they did not develop. I suggest reaching out to the developer(s) of the apps you’re using. If it is Apple developed apps, you can reach Apple support through the following channels.


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Oct 8, 2025 11:27 AM in response to orbitolina

ok, the cadence data with the internal iphone sensor remains bad. If I use ismoothrun for running and use the phone sensor for cadence the data is totally useless. If I use the app-internal pedometer as I used to I get miserable data in 5 out of 7 runs, but in two runs it was good. I do wonder whether this is due to the size of my new phone and how I hold it compared to the old 13 mini. It is substantially bigger. The question remains: how should the phone be held to get useful data?

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