Alternative UI layouts described by Jenn Jager

Seems OK for the VV Brigade but I can't see any of those "custom" layouts being any use to me.

The ability to create my own custom layout would be a bonus.

The classic configuration has been around for decades as it works well for most professionals and keen amateurs.

Although VV has been around for over a decade I consider it to be an abomination . . . maybe OK for those 5 second full body clips created by people who are either too lazy or too clueless to rotate their phones by 90°.

If you really need to emphasise a panel get another monitor.

PS. Perhaps the fact you have to pay for it has coloured my response.

Ian R. Brown wrote:

Now here's a good custom workspace which I call the AUV . . . Antipodean Upturned Video, especially designed for Australian editors.

https://discussions.apple.com/content/attachment/aeecf977-6d93-48e9-b4b2-eb3d5b59f0da

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I also abominate VV.

I will never forget this great explanation of the Vertical Video Syndrome:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2picMQC-9E

I think that more than the examples provided in that paid product, is the realization that one could actually do it oneself. I don't have any particular needs that would benefit from a special layout, but now I know that it can be done. That is good to know.

Nice!

It's bad enough when others do it but when it's one of your family it can lead to despair.

My daughter dutifully hold her phone horizontally (at least for the videos she shows me) but my son insists on using portrait mode to show football stadiums (he recently went to Barcelona with Rashford's brother to watch Marcus play) which is utterly appalling . . . . frantically panning around the vast panoramic sweep of the place.

1st, selling window layouts anyone can do is just wrong, IMHO.

2nd, very importantly, there are people (clients of mine) who do massive social media campaigns. Aside from FB and YT, very few support 16:9 video, and only run on 9:16 video. It's not the people, it's the platforms who dictate how you need to shoot your video. So for me to make a living, I have to edit vertical videos, period.

3rd, not everyone knows the ins and outs of professional broadcast and film, and don't care. Why disrespect them for having fun with their cameras? No classy at all, guys.

You just described my sister perfectly, Ian R. Brown.

She pans her iPhone during the Eagles games and no matter how many times I try to explain, she does it again and again.

Me: "Hold your iPhone sideways so I can see what’s going on‼️"

No matter how many times, she never listens.

I completely agree, Luis Sequeira1. 👍🏼

Smiliñ 😎 Brian

I joined these forums in 2005 and all was well with the world for several years until one day some insane fool asked a question about his video which was upright!

How on earth can you accidentally shoot with your camcorder on its side and why would you, I wondered.

A few minutes later Tom chipped in telling me it was a new phenomenon caused by mobile phones but I still wasn't convinced . . . why hold the phone upright?

It turns out that it's easier to shoot one handed . . . New Year's resolution . . . hold my camcorder in one hand to get better shots.

Ian R Brown:

That round image looks familiar. ⇪Made my own adapter from other stuff.

A circular image (adapter) was made by repurposing an 'inside the door

security view port'. AKA one of those privacy peep-holes, for front door.

Used that in front of 30~40mm (manual) lens for my SLRs & later DSLRs.

Fit well: simply makes a round ultra-wide image, in middle of film plane too.

With a collection of antique &/or newer film cameras, it's a fun effort. And

can give digital a minor update; with remix of stored vintage bits n pieces.

Much can be done too with filters on flash units; even manually triggered.

BenB wrote:

We don't see in a circle, we see in an oval. You have much more side to side peripheral vision than you do up and down. 16:9 mimics how we see, but in a square frame.

Not only that, be we have not one but TWO eyes! It seems that they are side-by-side in a horizontal layout, giving us an even MORE horizontally-oriented natural aspect ratio. :)

Now here's a good custom workspace which I call the AUV . . . Antipodean Upturned Video, especially designed for Australian editors.

Just noticed that in that clumsy sentence it appears as though I was saying Marcus was appalling. No, it's my son's filming technique!

Ian R. Brown wrote:

Now here's a good custom workspace which I call the AUV . . . Antipodean Upturned Video, especially designed for Australian editors.

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I understand that the platforms dictate stuff.

I can still say it's wrong.

I don't think anyone has been disrespected in this thread.

Here's a suggestion.

All lenses including our eyes "see" circular images not rectangular ones (whether they be horizontal, vertical or square).

So what about a circular format?