What else? plist file? and?. . . ?

a rather esoteric problem. . . my CAD machine.


Old Mac and Old software: MacBook Pro(OS 10.6.8) & Vectorworks 2008(build 13.0.0), correct and compatible all


Expensive CAD software runs on this eBAY Mac but STILL need ONE small tweak to the CAD app.

It worked, kind of. . .

-- If opening a V'works CAD file previously saved I get an "xml" error-- whatever that means. However, if I open V'works (double click the app) and then use FILE menu to open from the file system it opens CAD files just fine and appears to work. I just don't like getting the errors when opening a CAD file and having to open the app first, then, selecting using the FILE menu. I suspect based on some qwerky effects using the older 13.0.0 version that making this small upgrade is probably worth it as it likely fixed a bunch of small problems not caught in their beta testing. I really would like to get 13.0.1 operating and, with NO odd stuff happening when opening the app or files.


Background: Nemetschek in Germany removed all their software upgrade servers for older versions of Vectorworks 2008; new versions cost thousands. (However, I have an old MacBook with all the software ON it, fully upgraded . . . It has other problems that prevent its "use".)


I was able to use my legal DVD to install the app on this MacBook Pro but can no longer make the final upgrade to 13.0.1-- only an additional 0.1 level due to Nemetschek not maintaining servers. . .


My workaround that did not quite "do" it-- I had the FULLY upgraded version of the V'works 2008(13.0.1) on my OLDer MacBook and just manually dragged the file onto the Pro, replacing the 13.0.0 version .

-- moved the 13.0.0 app file into another folder and pasted the desired 13.0.1 app in its place.


SO, I am attempting to recall or determine protocols for manually dragging files which may allow me to get around having to use an upgrade server. Yes, I understand I may omit something but being this appears to basically work I am willing to risk it. Failing requires re-doing the DVD upgrade to get back to the base version-- 13.0.0.


-- Do I also need a plist file or other things like that?

drag it ALSO from my old Mac's hard drive. . .

-- What other files do I require?


Need an old timer for this one!

thanks folks.


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Posted on Feb 10, 2026 2:41 PM

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Feb 10, 2026 3:01 PM in response to Brian Schreiber

That's quite a rats nest you've gotten yourself into :)


First off, I'l say I don't think there are many absolutes here - no single reason why this is happening, nor any single action you can take that will resolve it. It's going to be some level of trial and error.


To that end, copying .plist files isn't likely to do anything - there is no code in the .plist, just (typically) preference settings, and they shouldn't be able to affect this.


Second, given the age of the software, it's likely that the app is self-contained... that is, everything you need is in the .app file. Modern apps tend to consist of many discrete files, libraries, plug-ins, extensions, etc. but back in 2008 the norm was more towards a single monolithic .app file. Therefore it's likely that copying the 13.0.1.app file is all there is to do - there are no other files that contain executable code that could (should?) affect this.


There' a chance, though, that copying the app doesn't fix the problem.

Double-clicking a document in the Finder is the responsibility of the OS and not the target app. The Finder has to lookup the document type, find what kind of application can handle it, and initiate the application (launch it, bring it frontmost, etc.) and hand it the document.


It isn't clear from your description where the problem lies - is the error message you get coming from the Finder ("No known application for this document type"?), or from VectorWorks (the app opens correctly, but VectorWorks says it can't open the document? The difference is key.


If it's the Finder that's throwing the error, then it's the OS that's lost track of which application can open the CAD file. The OS keeps a map of file types and applications, so it knows that, for example "Pages" can open ".pages" ".docx" and ".txt" files, Numbers can open ".numbers", ".xlsx" and ".csv" files, and so on. If this map has gotten corrupted, then copying the application file isn't going to make a difference since the problem occurs before the OS knows what application to use

(note, contrary to what I said above, each application uses a .plist that contains data on which documents it can open, and the OS reads this when installing the app, but it's embedded within the application and not a separate standalone file that users normally access).

If the OS is properly launching VectorWorks when you double-click a document, then the OS<->Document Type map is working, and it's something else that's at fault.


Knowing where it breaks is going to be key to finding a solution.

Feb 17, 2026 8:19 AM in response to Camelot

Your reply gave me enough confidence to just try manually, dragging the app in in replacing the old one. I did that and it worked.Period.

So instead of doing it in the kind of contrived way I did at first I did it the no-brainer way. Duh

I figured the XML error was just due to some lack of ability to find certain files. No problem now. everything is cool and since then I’ve again become expert at CAD as I used to be.

however, again this was a painful learning curve oh well, thanks again!

Feb 18, 2026 7:05 PM in response to Brian Schreiber

eXtended Markup Language (XML) is just a file format type the structures file contents in a predictable and easily parsed way. plist files are a particular sort of XML-formatted file - and many CAD file formats are also XML under the hood.


Best guess is that the older version of your application had a subtle bug in it's XML parser that only triggered under certain conditions - like perhaps if a CAD file created in a previous version got opened in 13.0.0. It's even possible that 13.0.1 specifically fixed that bug (among others).

Feb 10, 2026 9:46 PM in response to Camelot

Interesting. I knew someone here had the background to help! and yes, this is kind of a pickle to chew.


I think I will repeat my drag and drop experiment. Your explanation makes me more confident that there is potential to make this work and that I having an app that has all sub-files inside it is encouraging.


(I only mentioned plist because I recalled that file type as something vaguely "important", could barely recall it from memory. Well, it was enough to make my point, so that is good.)


Thanks, I will work on this a bit and get back as I learn stuff . . .

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