Netflix on old Apple TV

I WANT NETFLIX ON MY OLDER MORE EXPENSIVE APPLE TV. THE ONE I PAID MORE MONEY FOR (DID I MENTION THAT?) THE ONE WITH BETTER GRAPHICS RESOLUTION!!

bells33 wrote:
I WANT NETFLIX ON MY OLDER MORE EXPENSIVE APPLE TV. THE ONE I PAID MORE MONEY FOR (DID I MENTION THAT?) THE ONE WITH BETTER GRAPHICS RESOLUTION!!

And I want a million dollars tax free every year for the rest of my life. Both of us are likely to be disappointed.

Actually, according to Apple's specifications, the new model has the same resolution as the old one, but supports a higher frame rate.

tgibbs wrote:
Actually, according to Apple's specifications, the new model has the same resolution as the old one, but supports a higher frame rate.

Huh? I think you must have replied to the wrong person.

I agree! I want Netflix for the original and _*more expensive*_ Apple TV's that I have already paid for. I have three Gen 1 Apple TV's. _*The newest one is less than 1 year old.*_ To quit supporting a product you were marketing and selling to your customer base such a short time ago shows absolutley NO respect for your customers.

Driller4664 wrote:
I agree! I want Netflix for the original and _*more expensive*_ Apple TV's that I have already paid for. I have three Gen 1 Apple TV's. _*The newest one is less than 1 year old.*_ To quit supporting a product you were marketing and selling to your customer base such a short time ago shows absolutley NO respect for your customers.

You use that word "supporting," but I don't think that it means what you think it means. It certainly does not mean adding new features that the product was never designed for or advertised as providing; it means keeping the product working correctly with current software revisions and continuing to provide content. To the best of my knowledge the original Apple TV still works according to its product specifications.

My iPhone 3gs still works fine, and does everything that I bought it to do, but it doesn't support Apple's Facetime or HDR photography that the iPhone 4 offers. Does that mean that Apple has "quit supporting" my phone?

OK. How about this. Apple not offering feature updates to a system that they were marketing and selling less than a year ago shows a complete lack of respect to the customers that purchased that system. Your iPhone 3G probably didn't have MMS messaging when you bought either, but it does now.....

With rare exceptions, products are not sold with a commitment of "feature updates." What you buy is what you get. Some products do receive feature enhancements, usually in the few years after introduction, as with the original Apple TV did, but I can't think of any example of a product that has received major feature updates five years after introduction. There are advantages to buying a 5-year old product--you get a mature, polished product with the bugs stamped out--but additional major feature updates cannot reasonably be expected to be part of the deal.

I believe Apple products fall into that 'rare' catagory and that is why I have purchased them in the past. If it is true that they will not be updating the Gen 1 Apple TV's, it will definatly affect whether I am willing to spend my money on Apple products in the future.

The "rare" category is products that are sold with an explicit promise of a future upgrade adding new features. For example, the new Apple TV was released with a promise that it would support AirPlay when that feature was added in a future upgrade. No such commitment was made regarding the original Apple TV. I don't know of any case of any product by any manufacturer in which a significant new feature was added 5 years after product introduction, so that is well beyond the bounds of what any consumer may reasonably expect.

I don't know, I bought my iPod Touch a couple years before I bought my Apple TV, and the ipod now has copy/paste, bluetooth headphone capability, full spellchecking, and as previously mentioned plays netflix movies among other things.

edit- which by the way supports tv out , and i think is gonna be the way im going to go for netflix

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As a product, the Apple TV is two years older than the Touch. Both received substantial updates during the first two or three years after introduction. I'd be very surprised if the first-generation Touch is still receiving substantial new features in 2012.

Forget 5 years after product introduction. How about at least 2 years after phasing it out. Or at least let customers know that what they're buying will not be receiving any updates/upgrades when a newer model comes out. I probably would not have spent the $300.00 on the last one I bought if I would have known.

No updates? Seems unlikely. Apple has made no such announcement, and in the past they have continued to support products for at least a couple of years after discontinuation. So it is likely that the original Apple TV will receive whatever updates are needed to maintain compatibility with OS upgrades, and that Apple will continue to support it with compatible media for downloads. So your AppleTV will continue to have its advertised features, which presumably were worth the purchase price to you when you bought it.

Netflix, obviously, is another matter. It is common for a new product to have capabilities that the older models don't have. The latest upgrade of Apple's Camera app for iPhone includes HDR photography, but only on iPhone4. My iPhone 3gs, less than 2 years old, did not get this feature. And as has been discussed previously, it is questionable whether the original Apple TV is even capable of running Netflix adequately.

None of reasons mentioned are why Netflix, airplay and TV rental aren't coming to the 1gen Apple TV. It has all the hardware specs it needs. It's over-specced in fact.

The problem is the Component Video out.
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_hole and http://www.eff.org/issues/analog-hole

2Gen AppleTV has no analog outs. Only HDMI supporting HDCP end point displays.

With the gen 1 Apple TV there's nothing stopping you from putting a VCR/PVR/DVD recorder/PC between it and the display and recording the content.

Apple might love to be able to put the same feature set on both generations of box, but they aren't licensed to.