BT 205 modem - XXX Did Not Respond

Hi

After months of this problem - it still persists. I have no problems with iChatAV except with video chat. In general my attempts to connect with others for video chat have been met with intermittent success - sometimes getting the user did not respond message. When trying to connect with another user with the same router (Voyager 205) I always get the user did not respond message. My friend has a voyager 205 and an imac G5. We both have 2mb broadband. We have both tried port forwarding as per advice on websites - all to no avail. Is there something that I am missing? Are Apple aware of this issue? Might it be the router's fault? Perhaps I should be using a modem instead of a router (when I had a broadband modem with the same setup everything worked fine - but I have changed ISP and the only use routers).

Any help or advice greatly appreciated.

iMac G4 (dome) 1GHz, Mac OS X (10.4.3), voyager 205 router, 2mb broadband with BT, isight

Posted on Dec 5, 2005 4:23 AM

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Dec 10, 2005 3:05 PM in response to JonathanUK

I have to agree. This is an iChat bug. There have been herculean efforts by people on this board to resolve this problem, but I think it is all for not.

I have this problem (I noticed it with my upgrade from 10.4.2 to 10.4.3) and I have Apple's Airport Express and a stock configuration of Tiger. I can't connect on video to friends and family whether they are across the country or in the next room.

I'm ****** at Apple for not releasing a kBase article on this and making everyone jump through these hoops for nothing. Bugs are inevitable, but not acknowledging them is juvenile.

Dec 10, 2005 3:40 PM in response to paul oberman

I would love to know of one area on the net where everyone who has suffered from this problem could register their complaint. Is there such a website?

In buying the OS we have all paid for this software and it doesn't work. Simple. No instructions provided by Apple, no help from them, has got anywhere near resolving this - and I see no official acknowledgment of the situation, but I do see thousands visiting posts about this problem on this site. All you need to do at the moment to be extremely popular on the net is raise the subject 'user did not respond' on this website. I'm thinking of having advertising next time I do it!

Dec 10, 2005 4:35 PM in response to Simon - Peter

Have you tried changing routers? The router is likely where the problem is unless it is the new ISP that you have.

Apple cannot control each and every router and modem model that makes its way to the market, so to make the iChat AV software more compatible, video quality would likely suffer. But most of us are looking for better rather than for inferior quality.

Dec 10, 2005 11:08 PM in response to James A. Weston

believe me, it's not the router.

i am using airport extreme and i had been using ichat for years. now, upgrade to tiger, and poof......

nothing works.

jump through the hoops and do all of the port forwarding and such. now my connection talks to the test sites, but no one else. Why? Everyone else, that i chat with, decline to go through these steps. They don't have time and don't know how.

Like I posted before "one side of an ichat connection, does not a connection make"

i just don't know why apple doesn't fix the problem. they should at lease allow an older version of ichat to run under tiger. just until they can work out their issues.

i don't know.

i like the idea of a formal posting location, but i doubt apple would let us do it here. I sure they would become audible over that.

hmmm.

Dec 11, 2005 2:41 PM in response to James A. Weston

Have you tried changing routers? The router is likely
where the problem is unless it is the new ISP that
you have.


My next stage is to get on the phone and see if my ISP (BT) will allow me to change router. Would a modem be better? What's the difference between the two devices?

I'll post whether or not I meet with success.

Thank you everyone for your help and input.

Dec 11, 2005 2:47 PM in response to paul oberman

Your post mirrors my sentiments. This problem is infuriating. I have tried things far more complicated on my mac over this than I would ever have imagined trying in the past! I used to be so thankful that the mac just worked right out of the box, however....
Those Days have gone down in the West,
Behind the Hills,
Into Shadow.
How did it come to this?

Dec 11, 2005 3:06 PM in response to Simon - Peter

Hi Simon - Peter,

I personally would go for a Linksys.

They tend to work with iChat. They have Port Forwarding, Port Triggering and UPnP as options to open the ports.

You would do better to look for a modem that offers these choices.

The D-Links are the bottom of the list of the main suppliers. Netgear are OK but read other posts on the Firmware on these.

This site http://bbs.adslguide.org.uk/ has a MAc forum and they can be helpful there as well.

Ralph

Dec 12, 2005 3:51 AM in response to Simon - Peter

This is an aggravating problem.

I recently moved home and switched ISP, but using same router and same configuration (apart from ISP login), and now I can't iChat with a friend in New Zealand. I can't blame the ISP because it works OK with other buddies and the friend in NZ can video her other buddies. Why is this?

As someone has already said, Skype works fine every time. If Skype can implement video with the same level of reliability, iChat is in danger of being left behind.

Dec 13, 2005 12:04 PM in response to JonathanUK

JonathanUK,
My problems are IDENTICAL to yours and I am at the end of my rope with iChat AV. After upgrading my office from 10.3.9 to 10.4.x, none of the people in this office can conduct video chats. (audio still works) We are behind a Ciso 8130 router that is configured with all iChat AV ports open. Still, it won't work and the only change we made was upgrading our machines to 10.4.x. (it used to work with 10.3) Someone please help!!!

Dec 13, 2005 10:11 PM in response to Ralph-Johns-UK

IN early November I bought my sister and imac G5 and we video chatted every day for a few weeks. Sometime at or before November 20th video chat stopped working. It almost always complained that I, the one who initiated the chat, didn't respond, but there were a number of other interesting tibits as well.

It's important to note that nothing changed on my sister's end or on my end, it just stopped working. What did change, however, was the software on the mac. In particular, the 10.4.3 update occurred right around that time.

Even more important to realize is, When it was working we had done nothing to our firewalls to make it work. No port forwarding was turned on, nothing. And it just worked, and worked perfectly. I was never so proud of Apple software/hardware.

So something has gone wrong. My sister and I have actually turned off both our firewalls in order to get it working, to no avail.

Meanwhile, I am still able to chat with somebody else that I have chatted with for months, so I am not sure what's up with that.

Between this and the Aperture debacle, I am really frustrated. I hope a software release is done soon to try to resolve this problem.


Dual 2.5Ghz Power Mac w/3Gb RAM Mac OS X (10.4.3)

Dec 14, 2005 1:42 PM in response to Rostron

Yes, Apple is not very helpful with all the connection problems.
I was off iSight since September with some of my buddies - in the meantime we've learned more about routers than i wanted to know. We ended up with two AirPort Extremes not being able to talk to each other.
But guess what, it is not only the routers, because as soon as one of us uses a VPN to change the actual route, we get rid of the underlying timeouts, it works.
Ok, it is not Apple, who's providing the connection, but the connection doctor is useless, if you don't end up with a connection.
No chance to see that ports are not open - and don't tell me that you can't check that with a smart script. What the heck for do we have a .Mac subscription?
And the really sad thing is, that most of us started getting that sort troubles with Tiger.


iBook 700 MHz Mac OS X (10.4.3) AirPort Extreme

Dec 15, 2005 6:46 AM in response to Simon - Peter

A VPN or Virtual Private Network is simply a tunnel between two points used to create a more secure network over the internet between authorised users typically in different locations.

Some routers have VPN ports a bit like VOIP Telephony but most will require port forwarding and some just won't work at all (a bit like iChat).

VPN is just one method of securing connections between computers - there are many methodologies including my favourite VNC (Virtual Network Computing) over SSH (Secure Shell Server).

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