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Does iMovie '11 support 1080-60p?

Since there is no forum yet for the just released iMovie '11, pardon me for posting this year.

I was wondering if the new iMovie '11 will be supporting 1080-60p from Panasonic TM700K camcorder? And if so, will it convert and bloat the files to several times the original size?

Macbook Pro, Mac Mini, Mac OS X (10.6.4)

Posted on Oct 20, 2010 12:29 PM

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Posted on Oct 20, 2010 1:03 PM

Fo what it's worth, http://help.apple.com/imovie/cameras/en/index.html?lang=en_US list the Panasonic / HDC-TM700 AVCHD HDD / Memory as supported.

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And if so, will it convert and bloat the files to several times the original size?


It may have to because highly compressed content lacks the 'every frame data' needed for easy editing.
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Nov 11, 2010 8:52 PM in response to Tom Wolsky

That is unfortunate! Today I really got to appreciate the superiority of 60i over 30p by seeing it in action.

I recorded a couple 30 sec segments of my self playing tennis, using my new Sony WX5 camera mounted on a tri-pod, with the following two formats: 1440x1080/60i AVCHD and 1440x1080/30p MP4. Then when I got home I connected the camera to my HDTV via a HDMI cable and played the two videos. This is unprocessed video straight from the camera.

The 60i was noticeably smoother than the 30p. The fast movement really showed the difference. There's a certain jerkiness with 30p that you don't see with 60i. I'm sold on AVCHD at 60i!

Now I need to find some software that will process AVCHD video on an iMac and preserve the 60i. Obviously iMovie doesn't do it.

Nov 3, 2011 9:25 AM in response to Starter

I totally agree with "Starter". We need a throrough explanation from Apple with regard to iMovie and how it relates to all these different HD and standard formats - frankly, they are doing my head in. I've got a little Panny that will only record in the American NTSC format - i.e. at a frame rate of 60i and 30p, rather than our European PAL format, which has a frame rate of 50 and 25 respectively. Meaning, if I want to put the contents onto a DVD the film quality degrades. Substantially. Also, iMovie 11 itself does not want to convert the original NTSC footage into PAL like iMovie 6 and iMovie HD used to do. And I found that importing my clips into iMovie HD (which is set in Preferences to PAL) gives much better results than importing the same clips into iMovie 11 without any conversion. What gives? I don't understand this at all.

Nov 3, 2011 9:56 AM in response to Martina22

Martina22 wrote:


... We need a throrough explanation from Apple with regard to iMovie and how it relates to all these different HD and standard formats ..

Apple will not do that.

They are very 'shy' to confuse the average customer with all that engineers lingo.


therefor the list of 'supported' devices. that simple. that's it.


to make things even more simple:

iMovies import routines are only triggered with AVCHD1 conform media.

50/60p, any streams beyond 24Mbit/s are not within that specs, that is AVCHD2, as for my dream-machine GCPX10 < sigh >, which goes to 34Mbit/s for 1080/50p .......


when you simply un-wrap the 60p.mts with the free ReWrap2M4V scipt - presto! - iM supports the resulting 60p.mov ....


the lege arte way is, to use the $$ ClipWrap tool to convert into appleintermediate.mov


that simple.


and: NOTHING replaces a high frame rate for SLOWMO ... see my lil' test with FCPX here http://youtu.be/xG0p4XxsR3s?hd=1


but to create a SMOOTH IMPRESSION, you need much more than just frame-rate and/or interlaced/progressive ... that is photographers work, by using profound the shutter speed ... watch any Transformers movie: every frame blurred' .... 😉

Nov 7, 2011 10:36 AM in response to Karsten Schlüter

Thanks for that, Karsten. Strangely, I have found that I get reasonable results (for DVD-burning purposes anyway) by going back to iMovie HD - importing the clips as DV PAL (as set in Preferences) and exporting in full DV/Quicktime quality. I've also set my Panasonic to iFrame (a 960x540 30fps setting within my Panny, designed to work smoothly with iMovie when importing). It's a bit odd that when I import my clips in their native format, i.e. MP4, they always show up darker and more contrasty in iMovie (HD as well as 11) than importing them as DV PAL. Not sure why that is, but it's a bit annoying that I actually have to use an old version of iMovie to get better results. I don't really need HD as that's a bit pointless with standard DVDs - burning HD "home-made" films to DVD is a joyless task as the quality from what I've seen isn't that brilliant.

Jan 30, 2012 4:31 PM in response to Martina22

Hallo to everyone, i'm italian and excuse me for any errors 🙂

Who says iMovie '09 or '11 don't handle 50p/60p footage? I don't have a panasonic, i have a canon HF10 and footage is 50i. When import at original size in iMovie the clip is still interlaced, you can see if play with quicktime 7 because quicktime X deinterlace automatically. Due to eliminate some bad artifacts with imovie effects or stabilization or quality degrading output, i deinterlace imovie clips with jes deinterlacer using Prores codec (usually 422 or 422HQ - yes imovie handles perfectly prores clips) 50p output at 1920x1080. Now i copy clips 50p into imovie events subfolder. When start imovie i found clips ready to use. Now the event still 25p/30p when output, but slowmotion is great, and quality is very better.

I hope my oldscool english is decent or at least comprensible.

Simone.

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