Korg NanoKontrol light issues

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Korg NanoKontrol light issues

I'm running Logic Studio and can't get the Korg Nanokontrol LED lights to stay on. Anybody familiar with this product will remember there's 9 sliders assigned for 8 tracks and number 9 is the master volume slider. Different scenes allow more tracks to be used, but thats besides the point.. point is.. I can get the solo/mute buttons to work on the tracks.. however, the light doesn't remain on display on the nanokontroller..

So I can reference the monitor and see in logic which tracks are solo or muted, but my controller, which is supposed to keep lights on for the tracks being used doesnt work. Does anybody else have this problem?

Solutions?

Posted on Nov 9, 2010 11:21 AM

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Bee Jay

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Nov 9, 2010 5:04 PM in response to citizenjared

second: i have the lights staying on in logic when I choose "learn" for assigning the parameters. I got all 9 mute buttons to work. make sure you DOUBLE TAP the buttons. a single tap will cause it to not work properly when learning the parameter.

Think about it: if you've set the buttons to toggle, they send one message while pressing it (to turn on), and another message when you turn them off.

Make sure you are learning the right one for the parameter you want - it depends how you've set things up.

third: i am trying to figure out how the crap to get the solo, pan, and volume to be learned.. but as I'm new to Logic, I'm still trying to figure out how to change parameters to assign. don't laugh at me. :P

Not at all, this stuff isn't obvious and the small generic fader boxes are always a pain to set up - that's one big advantage you get when buying a proper control surface - stuff just works (properly) out of the box!

incompatible Plug-In: Please update the nanoKONTROL control surface plug-in.

Ok, you can download an updated version from the Korg website. But be aware, using the nano as a supported control surface is different to setting it up manually as a MIDI controller - Logic kinda "takes over" the nano and makes it do what the control surface setup tells it to do. The control surface module will be set up for you, but you won't be able to change much to your liking, as the control has been pre-mapped by Korg and can't be changed.

Do try the control surface module out though - if all you want is basic faders/mutes/pans etc, it works well enough.

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Bee Jay

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Nov 9, 2010 11:45 AM in response to citizenjared

I can reference the monitor and see in logic which tracks are solo or muted, but my controller, which is supposed to keep lights on for the tracks being used doesnt work

It's "supposed" to do whatever it's been programmed to do. If you want it to act differently, you must program it accordingly. You currently have the buttons set to be "momentary" - they just send the same value every time they are pressed.

Load the korg kontrol editor, and change the buttons in the appropriate scenes to "toggle". Now they send one value when pressed once (turned on), and another when pressed again (turned off).

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citizenjared Author

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Nov 9, 2010 11:50 AM in response to Bee Jay

I've actually tried using the korg nanokontrol editor,and even switched the buttons from momentary to toggle, but the settings didn't save (because I opened up logic afterward and no dice). Is there some (likely easy) method to keeping the settings? I'll have to give it another go around and see if I didn't do something right.

Was this a solution for you personally, or just a web look-up? I found this "solution" on the web, but it didnt remedy my problem..

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Bee Jay

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Nov 9, 2010 12:00 PM in response to citizenjared

, but the settings didn't save (because I opened up logic afterward and no dice).

You have to actually send the changes back to the device (Communication -> Write Scene Data).
Just changing it onscreen is just, well, changing it onscreen.

Was this a solution for you personally, or just a web look-up?

Um... I tend to try and know about advice I give other people...

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Nov 9, 2010 1:59 PM in response to Bee Jay

Doh See those four bars against BeeJays name. He didnt get those for web look ups. But for being a down to earth Logic Genius

Check what driver version you have installed

There was a new version posted recently

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Bee Jay

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Nov 9, 2010 2:39 PM in response to welshwiggle

Also, you didn't say whether you were using it as a generic device (which the implication was, given that you were using scenes) in which case what I mentioned was true - but if you are using it as a control surface in Logic using the additional Korg control surface module, then it doesn't apply, as you can't change the behaviour in that case.

I can't remember offhand the exact behaviour when using it as a control surface, but I can check...

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citizenjared Author

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Nov 9, 2010 4:42 PM in response to Bee Jay

Sorry, I didn't mean to question you or be rude.. I've just learned that sometimes in forums, you get responses from well-meaning people who sometimes don't really have the answer other than google. So once again, no offense and I apologize.

Here's what I've figured out:

the Korg Editor DOES make the lights stay on. Brilliant! now if it will only work in Logic :S

I have figure a couple things out..

first: the korg template for the nanokontrol has something wrong with it. i'm going to go through their re-install measures again (involving deleting files etc etc) and try to get it to work again and see if the lights will stay on.

second: i have the lights staying on in logic when I choose "learn" for assigning the parameters. I got all 9 mute buttons to work. make sure you DOUBLE TAP the buttons. a single tap will cause it to not work properly when learning the parameter.

third: i am trying to figure out how the crap to get the solo, pan, and volume to be learned.. but as I'm new to Logic, I'm still trying to figure out how to change parameters to assign. don't laugh at me. :P

so anyway, it works.. but the template is bull (for me right now)

Also: every time i open logic I get an error:

Incompatible Plug-In:
Please update the nanoKONTROL control surface plug-in.

which is another task i need to figure out.. whew. any help is appreciated! been great so far!

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citizenjared Author

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Nov 9, 2010 5:29 PM in response to Bee Jay

i spent the whopping 60 bucks on it for the volume mute/solo functions primarily.. don't have the resources for all the nice gear.. yet.

i am fully armed and operational as far as drivers go. still, I get that pesky message. of course, i just have to hit "okay" and there's no future problems.

one things i've noticed, with garageband, for example.. is i get the device to work no problem in garageband.. except the lights. same happens when you use their template in logic. so the bottom line, is if you want to get the nanokontroller to have lights, you're gonna have to go through the process of assigning every little thing on your own.

no complaints. now i just gotta figure out how to get the parameters to change from pan/volume/mute/solo etc. not fun.

anyway, other than the plug-in message.. i think there's nothing else to do with it

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citizenjared Author

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Nov 9, 2010 5:43 PM in response to citizenjared

so i figured out the error plug-in message. if you choose the nanokontrol under the logic>preferences>control surfaces>setup and install area, thats what generates the error.

bottom line, don't install the template for the nanokontrol other than for garageband. and in logic, you've gotta manually assign everything or its not gonna work properly.

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Bee Jay

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Nov 9, 2010 5:53 PM in response to citizenjared

No, it doesn't generate the error if you go and download the updated version of the korg nanokontrol control surface plugin.

The older version doesn't work under Logic 9 - Korg posted a newer version that does, which is why I suggested you go and download it if you want to use it as a supported control surface.

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citizenjared Author

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Nov 9, 2010 6:08 PM in response to Bee Jay

are you talking about this driver on this page?

http://www.korg.co.uk/products/softwarecontrollers/nano/scnano.asp

this is the one i downloaded.. i followed the instructions in the readme, etc. is there a newer one?

i also downloaded this one.

http://www.korg.co.uk/downloads/driver/dl_driver.asp

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Bee Jay

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Nov 9, 2010 6:44 PM in response to citizenjared

No, that's the old 1.00, the one for Logic 8, which doesn't work in Logic 9.

I think this is the one you want:
http://www.korg-datastorage.jp/Software/nano/nanoKONTROLCSPlugin101.dmg

This is 1.01, and works with Logic 9. We went through all this on here a while back, around the 9.0.2 days, so you can search for the thread if you want the full infomation (we hacked 1.00 to "semi"-work with Logic 9 for a while, until Korg fixed it and offered a newer version that worked properly.

It's actually called nanoKontrol 9.1.0 (173) if you do a get info on the cs bundle, or at least mine is, which is the more recent one that works in LP9.

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citizenjared Author

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Nov 9, 2010 7:02 PM in response to Bee Jay

just downloaded it, and i'm looking at the print.. it says that the LED lights wont work.. however, I've got all the mute buttons and volume sliders working (and the LED working..) but still trying to get the solo parameter to pop up when i do "learn assignment for.." i dont know why.. but i click solo, and then go to the learn section and it won't pick it up. gahhh! got the play,stop,rewind, etc buttons working too.

anyway, i think i'm gonna run this puppy just how it is.. using my own assignments so the neat little lights will actually work. thats the original reason i came here in the first place :P

thanks for the help! ***** they can't get their software to make their controller to work properly.

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citizenjared Author

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Nov 9, 2010 7:17 PM in response to citizenjared

snap, figured it out. the solo button on the actual main window with all the tracks doesnt trigger the learn.. its the solo button in the inspector window. poom, on my way to nanokontrol happiness. thanks again!

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