MacBook Pro Logic Board Failure
Reset the power management module and zapped the PRAM, no luck.
MBP 2007 Core 2 duo 2.2, Mac OS X (10.6.5)
MBP 2007 Core 2 duo 2.2, Mac OS X (10.6.5)
Sorry! Don't know why the link didn't work.
I think your plan is exactly right. Go get a diagnosis and then take it to Apple and see what you can do to get it fixed. Again, thebhoydave1888's information was very helpful to me (though I ended up not needing anything but the encouragement to try.
This is the page to which I was trying to link:
MacBook Pro: Distorted video or no video issues
Symptoms
In July 2008, NVIDIA publicly acknowledged a higher than normal failure rate for some of their graphics processors due to a packaging defect. At that same time, NVIDIA assured Apple that Mac computers with these graphics processors were not affected. However, after an Apple-led investigation, Apple has determined that some MacBook Pro computers with the NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT graphics processor may be affected. If the NVIDIA graphics processor in your MacBook Pro has failed, or fails within four years of the original date of purchase, a repair will be done free of charge, even if your MacBook Pro is out of warranty.
What to look for:
Specific products affected:
Resolution
If your MacBook Pro is exhibiting any of the symptoms listed above, please take it to an Apple Retail Store or an Apple Authorized Service Provider (AASP) for evaluation, or call your nearest Apple Contact Center. Before visiting the Genius Bar at the Apple Retail Store, please make a reservation (available in some countries only).
Apple is issuing refunds to customers who may have paid for repairs related to this issue. Please contact Apple for details on the refund process.
Note: If your MacBook Pro is not experiencing any of these symptoms, you do not need to contact Apple.
Apple will continue to evaluate the repair data and will provide further repair extensions as needed.
I just wanted to give an update on my situation.
Got my laptop back today. 2011 mbp 15" with the amd graphics. I replaced the logic board back in August and it needed another one in December (past service warranty and Apple care) I also replaced the RAM twice.
I fought long and hard to get my laptop issues fixed with Apple. Let me tell you, it paid off. My logic board, RAM, and both left and right fan were replaced courtesy of Apple.
I encourage those of you with an issue to keep pushing with the customer service. Keep asking for a higher person. If that doesnt work, email (like I did), very kindly stating your situation. I emailed the head honcho himself and received a phone call two days later.
If enough people push and try and email, they will see that this is a true and definite problem.
I wish you all luck, and hopefully my laptop stays intact.
Anic, i dont expect it to work for everyone as well. But I also think you should read some of the other posts on these forums. Several others have emailed mr.cook and have had a good response. One person had a response that apple is gathering information and having people check into the problem.
So I think the point of my post was to encourage people to try and voice their problem to apple. I fought to get my laptop fixed.... since december! I definitely didnt think I would have this good of a response from them. I called myapple so many times, became irate, made geniusbar appointments, asked to speak with a manager so many times!
I did the same thing when my MBP 2010 15" logic board went belly up. Several genious bar trips several trips to cert apple repair people then finally sent it down to Tenn. on Apples dime. Got the board replaced. The diagnostic test at the certified repair place were inconclusive and they kept sending me home with a machine that would die on me. That was frustrating. I never lost my cool and kept moving up the food chain until I got someone who could make it right. Since then my machine has shut down three times so I live in fear of the final collasp. Once the finder wouldn't respond, and everything disappeard from my desktop another time the little apple disappeared so no shut down was possible, I burnt up my external hard drive trying to do a back up before doing a hard shut down incase I couldn't restart. On restart, everything returned to normal though it doesn't see my external drive anymore. It still gets very hot streaming video if I forget to engage the fan controller I downloaded. Something strange happened with the headphone jack the other day that caused the machine to freaze up. Another hard shut down was needed. So the problem has not gone away and I'm waiting for the other shoe to fall. This is not a good advertisement for our beloved Apple. On the other hand my wife's 13" MBP 2009 has been trouble free. I hope Apple takes this seriously and does something for all of us who paid $2000 and up for what was supposed to be a fantastic machine and is when the logic board is functioning. As it stands, if this thing dies before the 2 years is up since the last repair making this a 4 year machine and I can't get Apple to acknowledge that there is a problem with the manufacturing I'll never buy another Apple product. Here's hoping they step up and take care of this issue.
I have a 15 inch early 2011 mbp. The logic board failed in the forst year and had it replaced free under warranty. It was at that time I realized I actually board applecare, something that I forgot I had done.
This board worked well for the following year and failed at the end of Jan this year. Because I still had applecare, I had it replaced without cost. The replacement of it took two weeks compared to the three days during the first round.
Two months later, my mbp suffered from blue screen again, the same symptom as the previous times. The logic board spoilt within two months. I still have applecare and the warranty ends on 20th April, which is tomorrow.
I discussed this issue with my friend that had the same batch of mbp and had her logicboard replaced twice and when it spoilt the third time they replaced the entire machine for free because it was still within the three years of applecare.
As this was the exact same issue, I brought it up to the service provider when I brought in my mbp and asked if it was possible to get a replacement of the machine seeing that the logicboard has failed for the third time. The guy simply laughed it off and said no. So I tried tried to clarify with them that apple don't offer 1 to 1 replacement if the same issue occurs for the third time. The guy's expression changed immediately and he said that he ia unsure of the guidelines they have and I could ask apple myself (even though they are the authorized service provider).
I got in touch with apple by calling the hotline and after some waiting time and some details, the staff told me that the authorized service providers have their own rules etc and I should ask them about it and apple would be very glad to help me if they could in any way.
So with them pushing the problem to each other, I realized that I have no solution to it and most likely will just be getting a replacement of the logicboard with the fear of it spoiling again within two months, this time without warranty.
The mbp with three failed logicboard under applecare shouldn't get a 1 to 1 replacement at all? I'm very worried that it'll spoil again with a failed logicboard within months after they replace it this time round.
Has anyone encounter this issue before? May I please get some advice on this?
I Not sure about authorized service providers, when mine fails I called apple care and they sent a box etc.. Same issue replaced board, got it back three days later worse than before , called sent it back they replaced the logic board, memory, hard drive, got it back 4 days later still harped the problem sent it back so they could replace the display, not sure why, so they replaced the logic board and key lad , got it back over a week later turned it on, and it went blue , I video taped the whole thing from opening the box to power on, so I had proof. Called them back and then after some discussion they authorized a replacement, supposedly you need to have the SAME failure and they get 3 chances to repair before they will swap it out. But the new logic board they put in comes with a 90 day warranty. In the end my 2011 15 MBP with 750gb HD got replaced with a 2013 Maxed out MBP. I hope they work with you on this , it was aggravating but they do have to follow their procedures first. Other wise they would be swapping 3 year old machines for 3k machines and hemmorage money.
Mine has the same blue screen logicboard failure for the third time this round.
I was wondering how the procedure work for it when I was told by my friend that she got hers replaced after her third logicboard failure.
Hence I asked both the shop and apple and they both told me that they each have their own guidelines and I should consult them for it. So now I'm stuck at square one and I don't want to have a logicboard that will fail again so quickly with no more warranty.
Apple told me if the logicboard fails again within a few months after the repair, I can try to call apple again but it may not be free. That was what I'm frustrated about. Same issue for three times but dealt like this is the first time spoiling within three years of warranty while I've seen and been told that a replacement is possible but they don't even seem to consider it and brushed it off as a regular repair.
I recently had Apple replace my 2011 15 inch MBP with a brand new late 2013 rMBP 15 inch.
I was actually out of warranty since I did not extend my Applecare for years 2 and 3. Back in February, I got the blue screen logicboard failure for the first time. I thought it was a virus at first, so I brought it to the Apple store for them to take a look at it. They weren't sure if it was the logicboard or the lcd screen. They said since it was out of warranty they would offer a flat rate repair, which they send to a depot in Memphis, TN (The depot is actually an authorized Apple seller. I looked up the address on my repair form haha). The store manager decided to waive the repair fee since I actually brought my MBP to the store back in 2011 and complained of excessive heat where the CPU sits. It was documented in there, but according to their basic diagnostic tests, the internal temperatures were fine, so they did not take any action and sent me on my way home. The manager said the problem could/should have been rectified back then. (With a repair, you're given a 90 day warranty)
So I got my MBP back a week later. Now there was a problem with the fans. If I opened up youtube or any video streaming on any browser, the fans would run close to 7000rpm. At first it didn't bother me since I have my earphones in all the time, but after a while, I wanted to throw my MBP out the window. I took some screenshots showing that my fans were running at 7000rpm with very low normal temperatures according to iStat. With this evidence, I brought my MBP into the Apple Store once again. The woman at the genius bar who was assisting me, ran her basic diagnostic tests, and said internal temperatures are fine. I pulled up my screenshots to show her that I documented the problem. She told me that she can't look at 3rd party applications. So she said there was nothing they could do.
A week later, the same problem was still happening. So I brought back my MBP to the Apple Store. I told the person helping me what was happening, and this person this time, looked at my iStat screenshots. She determined there was a problem after running a cooling test. She also said that they could run an extended diagnostic test overnight if the cooling test came back fine. They said the fans needed to be replaced, but after they replaced the fans, the same problem still persisted. So they told me they would have to replace the logicboard and send it into the depot again, free of charge since it was still under the 90 day repair warranty.
When I went to pickup my MBP a few days later, I decided to talk to the store manager. (A friend of mine works at the flagship Apple Store in NYC. She told me to tell the store manager about my experience with the one genius bar rep who sent me home when there was actually a problem with my MBP, because that was unacceptable. She said that the store managers really appreciate the feedback.) After talking to him, he gave me his business card and told me if any additional problems persists to contact him. Well a new problem appeared. Anytime I had my MBP in sleep and woke it up. The fans would run at 5000rpm anywhere between a few seconds to a minute. It did not sound healthy at all. So I decided to bring it back to the Apple store.
The genius bar rep noticed the problem and said that the logicboard would have to be replaced. I asked him if the manager was in the store at the time, since I was told to let him know if I had another problem. The store manager came out and said that the rep told him the problem, and instead of having the logicboard replaced again, he would just give me a brand to MBP. Of course I took him up on it.
I think the key is to be friendly and not demanding. Explain to them that it's a real inconvenience, and how it's affected you. I'm a graduate student, so not having my MBP for a period of time does become problematic. These guys are more than understanding. I did speak to an AppleCare Manager over the phone before bringing in my MBP into the store for the 3rd time. He said that they follow a pretty strict protocol for a request for replacement MBP to be submitted. He told me that if he submitted my request based on the work done on my MBP at the moment that it would most likely be rejected. He said that on paper, all it shows is I am out of warranty and there's only been 2 repairs done on my MBP. There wasn't enough body of work to warrant a replacement. He said that the Apple Store managers have more flexibility when it comes to replacements since they physically deal with customers, so they can see the emotional stress and repair experience when consulting with a customer.
Hopefully this helps you. Is there a reason why you bring your MBP to a shop instead of the Apple store? I imagine it's because there isn't an Apple store in a close distance to you?
Wow! I did not know about this problem --my 15' macbook pro (late 2011) just had it's logic board and memory replaced -- under AppleCare it was free. I was without it for 4 1/2 days, which was problem, since I use it for work, school, etc.
My early 2008 MPB 15" 4,1 has had it logic board replace 4 times. Last time was about 8 months ago and now this one is going bad also. Is too bad because I really like the older AL MBP as opposed to the ones with the black chicklet keys.
I had to replace the motherboard of my macbook pro (15” early 2011) TWO times since I bought it what does mean THREE mother boards in Three years.
First one was under warranty but I've to pay again for the latest motherboard. I’ve been told from apple literally “computers have limited life”. OK but one year per motherboard is far from a quality product. Sorry.
I've been at the phone for hours talking with AppleCare staff (very kind and assertive people that “really feels my pain” but provide me with no solution at all)
thanks.
I have the same problem. My logicboard failed on my late 2011 Mbp and the price of repair is About $900. I was a long time PC user and this is my first Mac and possibly my last as I'm very dissapointed that after such a short period of time that I need such a costly repair. I could buy a brand new windows machine for the price of this repair. After this I don't think I can recommend Mac to anyone.
You're right, I don't "know" that; however, they can certainly visit Apple's forum once they go back home.
Beside that, posting an opinion without having some kind of proofs doesn't hurt.
You haven't proven they can't visit/respond to this forum either, still I don't ask you to prove your statement, because I have my opinion and it makes sense to me.
Csound1 wrote:
If I had posted that I might agree.
My point is that not everyone is always helping with each post; we're sometimes just discussing.
But I didn't, so once more are you trying to help or just take up space?
I'm not trying anything here.
I bought Apple MBP 13 inch mid 2009 in USA on 15-4-2010, used this rarely as I also have Ibook G4 bought in early 2005 again in USA which still works absolutely fine (except that it has OSX tiger).
In Aug 2013 started with blue screen, repeated self-restarting later MBP went dead , I called apple customer care n did diagnostics was not helpful. I was directed to go to authorized service Centre, Stormfront. I had to go long distance to give my MBP for testing and repair, week later was informed the top case needs replacing (cost £250). Few days later was told the may be the logic board replacing (cost £285), but can’t guarantee the work beyond 90 days.
I took it to Apple store, Trafford Centre, same story but price was different ( Top case £129, & logic board £350) but can’t guarantee the work beyond 90 days.
I told them at the Apple store, Trafford Centre, that I have an over 9 year old Ibook G4 which is still working great and there seem to be a manufacturing issue with these MBP, can Apple do it at a subsided or discounted price. I was told there are no such reported issues with these MBP and no recalls have been made and hence if I wanted a repair I have to pay a total of 490 pounds for the repair.
After reading these posts, I lknew it will be a waste hence didn’t get it repaired.
It’s a pity that Apple, claims that they are very proud of their products being high quality but doesn’t recognize the genuine fault (on these models) reported by its loyal customers who have paid a hefty price.
They should recall these models and replace with a new one for reasonable price if not for free.
Its shame that I can’t take this matter to court (including the available evidence from this posts here and also both of my laptops to show to judge) because I was told by Apple staff here that my purchase was not made in UK.
Hope one day Apple acknowledges (either by themselves or by court action by someone else) their production/design fault with these MBP and reasonably compensates their MBP customers.
Its shame that I can’t take this matter to court (including the available evidence from this posts here and also both of my laptops to show to judge) because I was told by Apple staff here that my purchase was not made in UK.
Did you buy it in the UK?
MacBook Pro Logic Board Failure