Hoefler text ornaments font is not displaying correctly in Pages

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Hoefler text ornaments font is not displaying correctly in Pages

I've imported an existing document from Appleworks into Pages. I am using Hoefler Text Ornaments (HTO) font occasionally, using the pointing finger. Pages indicates that the font is HTO, but displays the following key: ']' which is the proper key to press in HTO to get the pointing finger. All the ornaments are missing. I've used keyboard viewer and indeed the viewer indicates that there are no ornaments only normal text.
I've confirmed that the font is named correctly, that the finger is part of the font, and that the original document displays correctly. I'm guessing that the HTO font is corrupted in Pages. What can I do?
Thanks very much for your help.

iBook Mac OS X (10.3.9)

Posted on Dec 13, 2005 2:42 PM

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Answer 1

Tom Gewecke

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Dec 13, 2005 7:27 PM in response to paul sokal

The font is fine. In Unicode apps like Pages you need to input such symbols from the Character Palette rather than the keyboard, as they occupy different codepoints than in older apps like AppleWorks. The one you mention is at 261E: ☞

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paul sokal Author

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Dec 14, 2005 3:08 AM in response to Tom Gewecke

Hi Tom Gewecke - Thanks so much for your response. I puzzled out the character palette and fixed my document. I notice that the palette is huge. How would I know about the number designation? It seems really cumbersome to find a symbol like this just by hunting... although that's essentially what I did when I found the original years ago.
Thanks again. - paul

iBook Mac OS X (10.3.9)

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Answer 3

Tom Gewecke

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Dec 14, 2005 5:59 AM in response to paul sokal

How
would I know about the number designation?

You can cut down the hunting a bit by using the Unicode Blocks tab and focussing on areas where you might find the things you need, like Dingbats and Misc. Symbols. Or use view = Roman/Misc instead of Unicode. In 10.4 you can search the Palette by name I think, which may help in some cases.

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Answer 4

Dec 14, 2005 10:24 AM in response to paul sokal

Incidentally, another way to find symbols is by using the character palette in its "Glyph" mode. Change the view to "Glyph" with the popup, choose a font, and you can see all the symbols in that font. Much more manageable if you know which font you're interested in.

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Answer 5

Dec 20, 2005 1:58 AM in response to Anton Rang

An alternative is that if you have several glyphs which you use on a regular basis, use a different program to 'store' them so you can copy/paste into Pages.

I have several Keynote files with graphics I use in Pages, and some fonts stored in their entirety within Macjournal or Textedit documents. Select the character in one, copy, paste into a Pages document.

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FrankBe

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Dec 20, 2005 11:49 AM in response to Gerry Straathof

Hello Gerry,

if you only want to store special glyphs, you can store them in the character palettes "Favorits" section (I don't know if this is the correct title in the english OS, so I translate it from the german title (hi Dennis, can you jump in and lend me your knowledge, please 🙂 ). This does not work for images etc. but for glyphs I find it very handy.

Frank.

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DennisG

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Dec 20, 2005 1:16 PM in response to FrankBe

Frank,

You're absolutely right. There's a button in the character palette labeled Favorites that will let you store glyphs. I think you and Gerry both have workable ideas. You can use the character palette or store special characters in a document.

A question, Gerry: why use another program to store the characters? Since the user is already working in Pages, why not create a Pages document, then paste in the character he/she might want to save? What am I not understanding about this?

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Answer 8

Dec 20, 2005 3:46 PM in response to FrankBe

Frank,

I found a convenient way to "translate" menu entries:

* Launch Systemeinstellungen (System preferences)
* Go to Landeseinstellungen/Sprachen (International/Language)
* I have two entries: Deutsch and English. You can add a missing language via "Liste bearbeiten..." (Edit List...)
* Drag English to the first position.
* Launch the program you want to describe.
* Voilà, all entries are in English.
* Drag Deutsch again to the first position.

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Answer 9

FrankBe

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Dec 21, 2005 2:25 AM in response to Matthias Rempe

Hello Matthias,

thank you a lot. This works fine. I have tried that with the Fileinfo of the Finder, but that hasn't worked and I don't wanted restart the hole system only for viewing the english title of one item. But your solution is super.

Hello Dennis,

thank you for all the help and be sure, this will not be the end of our special teamwork 🙂

Frank.

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