Flash player for Ipad

More than half the websites I go to on the iPad don't display them correctly, or at all, because of Flash.

You're obviously visiting very different websites to me then. I have Flash disabled on my desktop computer too. My dislike for Flash comes from having to develop using it, not just as an end user.

There are lots of cool things about the iPad, but the fact that it doesn't support Flash isn't one of them.

You are entitled to your opinion. You also have free choice of what devices to buy. I just don't understand why so many people who cannot live without Flash buy an iPad.

Just because you want/need Flash doesn't mean everyone does. Just like I don't need/want Flash but I accept that some people do. That's why there are different devices for different people.

av8chuck wrote:
I realize this is an Apple site but I'm curious what planet you guys live on? More than half the websites I go to on the iPad don't display them correctly, or at all, because of Flash.

Which planet do you live on ;)? I have flash disabled on my Mini and it's not much of an issue for me.

Tamara wrote:

av8chuck wrote:
I realize this is an Apple site but I'm curious what planet you guys live on? More than half the websites I go to on the iPad don't display them correctly, or at all, because of Flash.

Which planet do you live on ;)? I have flash disabled on my Mini and it's not much of an issue for me.

Different persons go to different web sites for different reasons.

You're obviously not a photographer. There is no question that LR and PS/CS5 are the pre-eminent photo processing packages and (surprise!) the tutorials supplied by Adobe are all provided in Flash.

Julian Wright wrote:

You are entitled to your opinion. You also have free choice of what devices to buy. I just don't understand why so many people who cannot live without Flash buy an iPad.

People buy iPads because of Apple. Apple has an excellent marketing machine and the Apple stores packed with people is the excellent vehicle to get people to buy for any reason just to belong to an Apple culture.

This is the same as our last housing boom, where packed sales floor of homes and people lining up for a chance to buy one in Vegas or Florida now are reasons for many of the foreclosures and bad loans. So obviously like the housing bust we are experiencing now, some people are not meant to be home owners just the same as some people are not meant to be iPad owners! Apple is what Apple does best! Stock price reflects this as well.

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"You are entitled to your opinion. You also have free choice of what devices to buy. I just don't understand why so many people who cannot live without Flash buy an iPad."

The issue isn't whether or not I can live without Flash on my iPad, for me the issue is that I own a business that offers products and services online that people who own iPads can't view.

Apparently Apple won't embed Flash because they think its old technology in favor of technology [HTML5] that isn't released yet. Your opinion aligns nicely with Apples, myopic and self centered.

Fortunately for the rest of us there are a lot more choices coming online that support Flash and HTML5.

"Fortunately for the rest of us there are a lot more choices coming online that support Flash and HTML5."

Exactly, that is what competition is all about. You have decided to stick with Flash and ignore the 175 million iOS devices. That is your choice. I'm sure you did a model of your plan and decided your business could thrive without us. And I hope for your sake it does.

I guess your business isn't interested in people like me. I wish you the best of luck with your business if you plan on making sure that hundreds of million potential eyeballs won't be doing business with you.

av8chuck wrote:
The issue isn't whether or not I can live without Flash on my iPad, for me the issue is that I own a business that offers products and services online that people who own iPads can't view.

So the issue really is whether or not your business can survive by using Flash on its website.

Just for the record, I would be much happier if the iPad did support Flash but it is a fact that it does not. In those instances where I want or need Flash content, I go to my Mac. If my Mac didn't support Flash, I'd have to buy a Windoze machine.

You make this sound like this was my decision when in fact it was Apples.

Just so you know, I'm typing this on a MacPro, I have a Macbook Pro, iPod and iPad so when I make money with the business you don't want to patronize I actually spend some of it purchasing Apple products.

But all of my support, or yours for that matter doesn't change the fact that Apple is doing a very stupid thing. iPads have the capability to play Flash, it just isn't implemented, to make it worse try loading an HTML5 website on your Mac using any other browser than Safari, it doesn't work.

So not only is Apple trying to tell Internet users which codec they have to use, they're also trying to force people to use Safari. So even if I subscribed to your logic and created an HTML5 website so an iPad could view the content, not only would I have filtered out all the Flash users, but also all of the people on the Mac that use something other than Safari. So instead of providing more access to potential customers Apple is providing less.

So the only customers Apple seems to care about are their own, which is fine, you won't patronize my store because apparently the only online device you depend on only displays HTML so you can't see all the wonderful things I provide, because the site uses Flash, I make less money and no longer buy Apple products. Works for me.

This whole thing is like the cartoon Pinky and the Brain. Pinky (Customers) "what are we going to do today Brain?" Brain (Steve Jobs), "why the same thing we do every day Pinky, try to take over the World." Pinky "Snarf."

"Fortunately for the rest of us there are a lot more choices coming online that support Flash and HTML5."

Exactly, that is what competition is all about. You have decided to stick with Flash and ignore the 175 million iOS devices. That is your choice. I'm sure you did a model of your plan and decided your business could thrive without us. And I hope for your sake it does.

Really? My business does very well with the other 1 billion Internet users who can't read HTML5...

You make this sound like this was my decision when in fact it was Apples

It is YOUR decison to not use html5 on your website(s).
and again, it comes back to "It's Apple's fault".

iPads have the capability to play Flash, it just isn't implemented

Correct. It's up to Adobe to implement Flash for any device and they have not announced a usable, working product Flash for iOS.
Apple doesn't want it and it seems Adobe has simply said, "okay" and went home.

Glad to hear it is doing well. So you don't have a problem.

av8chuck wrote:
"Fortunately for the rest of us there are a lot more choices coming online that support Flash and HTML5."

Exactly, that is what competition is all about. You have decided to stick with Flash and ignore the 175 million iOS devices. That is your choice. I'm sure you did a model of your plan and decided your business could thrive without us. And I hope for your sake it does.

Really? My business does very well with the other 1 billion Internet users who can't read HTML5...

A billion users that can't read HTML5? Wow!

Of course, with a billion customers, you can well afford to shrug off the IOS users.

Actually, the following browsers have already implemented significant chunks of the HTML5 spec: Chrome, Safari, Opera, Firefox, Internet Explorer (yeah - that's right IE). That's pretty much 99.9% of the browser market. Moving a web site off Flash and onto html5 isn't going to restrict anyone's access to your site.

It is also worth noting that HTML5 isn't an Apple creation, it is the new spec being developed through the W3C. Also video delivery is FAR from the only added functionality in the new SPEC.

Flash has a security and code overhead that really isn't justified anyomore. It has served its purpose, but its done. No - it isn't going away tomorrow, there is effort and expense in replacing any technlogy, but unless Adobe finds another function for it, it won't survive. It wasn't Apple's decision to kill it, they are just the first to step on the mat.

PS: Sorry Philly Phan. Replied to your post but obviously not directed to you.

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It's nice to talk to someone who owns Google.com since I highly doubt that 1 billion people are visiting your site.