Flash player for Ipad

James Ward4 wrote:
It wasn't Apple's decision to kill it, they are just the first to step on the mat.

randomManFromTheStands wrote:

James Ward4 wrote:
It wasn't Apple's decision to kill it, they are just the first to step on the mat.

I think you ment "only" not "first"

They haven't killed flash anywhere except on ios.

Love my macs, but hate that there is no adobe flash player available for ipad or iPhone which really *****. Soooo many sites require it:(

I had planned to outfit my sales staff with iPads to access our website with clients to showcase our digital magazines. No flash/no work. Ok apple I'll buy another brand.

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I just found out about iswifter. About to download...

Folks, here's the sad truth, according to Engadget:

"After nearly 4 years of the iOS platform, Adobe is still having difficulty being able to get Flash Player on Apple’s mobile platform. Many sided with Adobe on this one a couple of years ago calling this exclusion unreasonable, but the latest failures for Android Honeycomb to deliver decent Flash performance justifies Apple's decision. Even the Frash hacks bogged down the 1st generation iPad and the PlayBook had problems bring Flash to their Blackberry Tablet."

Some months ago, before I really researched this issue, I was determined to "get around Steve Jobs obvious hidden personal and business greed agendas" and run Flash on a tablet. So I bought an ASUS Transformer Tablet just to be able to run flash (a $400 "app")! OK, just a wee bit over the top. But, I can now personally testify to the surprisingly disappointing performance of Flash on Android.

Based on that confirmation, and on numerous reports from those running Flash on jailbroken iPads, either Adobe has lost all of it top notch programmers to Google, Facebook, -- and likely even Apple! -- or it never has been serious about porting Flash to iOS (I suppose this could have been intentional, thinking that the absence of Flash would do serious harm to the platform once folks found out).

But whatever. I am finally over my Flash of "brilliance" and resigned to just skip over the web sites that require Flash, and wait till I am at my iMac or PC to do those that are really necessary. And, despite that the ASUS Tablet does technically run Flash, it does it so poorly that I preferred to use my Mac or PC.

I gave the minty new ASUS Tablet which is otherwise a nicely done, but still "work in progress" (unlike my Android phone) to my med school daughter. She loves it -- and now calls me all the time to talk, usually about how to get stuff to work on it (but any excuse to talk to her is good by me ;-).

Obsolet!!!

Flash is so up to HTML5, is structured, have a good tools and great performance... the trouble isn't Flash, the trouble are the designers, they don't refines their job. don't know how to do a good debug to obtain a performance for any machine. in HTML5 the trouble will be a same.

Trouble are not the arrow ... is the endian...

Flash is a very secured tool, hacking is a trouble of each lang, C++, Java, windows, macos, linux... all programing language and os have several hacking possibilities... in personal a few times I was be atacked over eclipse apps, but i was have a looky to stop they at time... Then when the hacking is possible from any way is stupid think that only flash is used for tief or break the law..., in fact is the less used becouse have not communication with the system and with other sandboxes diferents at the swf source... Per se, google analitycs is any way of hack... and nobody tells none...

Then, the sollution aren wait to adobe produce an stable version of Flash player... the stability for AS3 developers is good in any type of devices or machines...

If the problem is the endian and not of arrow, then they need apply to all technologies... included HTML5, and in a radical way, only certified users can publish on internet or for devices apps, they is a really sollution to solve the troubles... And adobe for certify their apps and their developer apps need a digital signature that only appears in flash publishing when the movie is up to debug test.

If the player can read this sign then run the app in iOS...

And one stop more:

if HTML is perfect why can't view in same form with any navigator??? or with several dynamic fonts??? then flash does this possible!!!

jam65st wrote:

Flash is a very secured tool,

That would be "very unsecured tool".

If the problem is the endian and not of arrow, then they need apply to all technologies... included HTML5, and in a radical way, only certified users can publish on internet

Really?

REALLY?

Who is going to certify these users to put something on the internet?

And what/who is to stop someone from putting something on the internet?

If the player can read this sign then run the app in iOS...

Security is only one of the issues of using Flash.

Even if there were no security concerns, Adobe has not been able to make a version which runs on iOS. They gave up.

And one stop more:

if HTML is perfect why can't view in same form with any navigator??? or with several dynamic fonts??? then flash does this possible!!!

Because companies have not enabled their browsers to be completely/correctly html5 compatible.

-> http://acid3.acidtests.org/

Flash is a secured tool, I was develop several RIAS for web, desktop or mobile utilities, for sectors like banking, financial, education, security and defense with database connections, socket communications and several of the AS3 possibilities, and in hacking test the answer is 0, nobody can't get private information of this stuff. And this is possible becouse the core is structured, based on ECMA standards, like javascript, C++ or other programing languajes. Only one pearson taht don't know the tool or the programing languaje can say that is unsecure.

Now in the certification case this is a trouble of QC process, the argument is so stupid, in this case Apple have a program for developers. Several years ago, the pearsons need be qualified to publish in any media. Today any fool can put trash on some one of this media, including internet. But this requirements are needed to build a real and useless web.

In fact, in the last issue, I post that the trouble isn't Flash, are the designers, but the trouble is extended to any software for internet, becouse the people thinks that need great and beaty stuff, but don't debugg this job, don't check the machine resources, or system reuirements, only do bats to put in the cave... for example the URL in the last post conduce us to a simple showcase, but this is an stuff in HTML5 and looks like a Flash5 ( any tool of ends of last century) and request a big quote of memory to start with any navigator... and advice, debug this to obtain a fluid and easy result.

Me, at same of others developers can run swf files in iOS without jailbreak our machines or devices... and with good results... With closed sollutions, but the tool can works in IOs for everyone, and in the market the MAC population is under a 5% becouse their products, with good QC process are expensives and restricteds. Then isn't Adobe responsability do tools to open iOS core for works in iOS. Adobe need develop a certification program guided to certify any publish, something likes do with Acrobat.

At Flash starting, with macromedia, Apple was be a great allied to extends this tool. Part of my job is crash machines. And MAC isn't easy, but at same crash too, like linux or windows machines. In final cut story the situation is the same, Adobe engineering was be a partner to do this tool real, then this reason does possible that the interface are than simillar, and same tools in each version.

Now is important that Apple put industries standards, and continues with the stricted QC of their process. but tell that HTML5 is a sollution is stupid, becouse HTML5 haven't structured, the real power of HTML5 is javascript, ECMA, in other words HTML5 isn't new think, only the knowledge of the real power of an structured standard with a make-up of HTML. In other words any similar to AS3 but without comiller.

At end, the trouble of HTML and navigators aren't of compatibility this start in metrics, except IExplorer, all navigators uses webkit, then if all have a same core, then they can do the things at equal? The answer is a lang. then a navigators have a bad use of memory and crash...

Then I wait that this leason are util to take a tour in AS3 and discover an structured lang, with several posibilities that runs in iOS for who can do run As3 in this devices...

I get that Steve thinks Flash is obsolete. Unfortunately most of the web based meeting technology seems to call for it. I've just figured I need to haul my MAC Pro out when the issue arises. I had been getting addicted to ease of iPad but the flash thing pushes me back.

Interested to see what Apple does with this limitation.

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