Puma 10.1 Free Upgrade (Can we still get our hands on this upgrade)

Obsolete software? I can't speak on behalf of Apple; but back in the day
when the coupon offer was new, you could have gotten the OS version
on CD at an authorized reseller for next to nothing; or by mail, etc.

You may try your luck in calling around to resellers of vintage software
and computers, to see if they have or can get this item; I see a listing
but did not look further, here at a place called welovemacs. I do not
have any dealings with them. I see a part number mentioned, so it
may be of help to further research your quest: (example)

• OSX 10.1 Update Operating System CD:
http://www.welovemacs.com/m8621llanos9.html

Note: Do not believe all their words in the above page about this
version of OS X functioning in the listed Macs; some of those
may have shipped with a build-specific version, ask questions.

{Some of there were only an update and not a bootable install disc.}

Other items as found appear to be for specific computers and these
shipped with those models and would not work in another Mac.

The software you've inquired about, is probably as rare as it is obsolete.
And not likely to be much better than putting coal into your vehicle gas
tank when it comes to approximating modern computing today.

While obtaining that may now be almost impossible, you could try & find
more information on whatever newer OS X version your computer may
be able to support. A later OS version often means RAM upgrades, and
perhaps larger hard disk drives; also some require Firmware updates.

Sources such as http://everymac.com list Mac models in a variety of ways
so you can match up a computer with the system it shipped with, as well
as the last supported system versions it may be able to run.

Another good source for matching up Mac product hardware and software,
is a download for offline use; worth having. See: http://mactracker.ca

Usually those coupons for a limited software update, included with a retail
purchase of a computer or other product, had a time frame of redemption.

I find coupons in my old stuff, and in product items I've been given. And I
waste no thought to redeeming any coupon if it is more than a few months
past the date it was first offered. Yet I am not sure of their actual lifespan.

It'd be safe to assume a 10 year old coupon may not be a practical value.
One would have to know more about the computer model & build version
in order to see what later OS X retail version may be better suited to use.
You can check that out via the web site link I've given to everymac and/or
also check out MacTracker for a reasonably sound basis of planning.

An OS X 10.1~10.1.5 "Puma" system would be a vintage without any reason
to be installed, except for a few instances of when someone has a collection
of old computers and their original supported software, in a demonstration.
I've used Cheetah, Puma, Jaguar, Panther, Tiger, and Leopard. And also,
Mac OS 6.0, 7.0~7.1, 8.0~8.6, 9.0~9.2.2. From original Mac to PPC G4 D/P.

Perhaps someone with a full install CD in their possession may give you a deal.
I no longer have all of the Apple Mac software that I used to own; nor do I have
all of the Mac models I have owned, restored/repaired; I've given most away.

Maybe someone with duplicates in their collection of vintage/antique software
will contact you about availability; but if you want to use the computer, you
can check the specifications and upgrade status in the cited sources.

The usefulness of the computer would be severely limited with Puma 10.1(.5)

PS: I see you have some leads on a plausible software upgrade for the computer
in one of your previous posts about this machine; the URL is:
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=8903204#8903204

Good luck & happy computing! 🙂

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OS 10.0 was basically a beta version of OS X & had a lot of "bugs". Apple supplied OS 10.1 as a free upgrade to provide a more stable operating system. Not sure why you would want to install 10.1, since it's obsolete. Not many of the current apps will run on 10.1. If you are trying to get back to 10.4, you don't need to install the intermediate OSs.

 Cheers, Tom 😉

Heath:

Trying to update an iBook which was once at 10.4. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

To install Tiger your computer will need to meet the minimum system requirements for Tiger. You will need the Full Retail Version of Tiger.

😉 cornelius

Oh.

I didn't even read this part in the original post:
*"Trying to update an iBook which was once at 10.4"*

Or thought it was a typographical error; I dismiss implausible.

An iBook running Tiger 10.4 would need more than 128MB RAM.

So, do you mean a system after Panther 10.3.9, etc...?
You obviously need a retail install disc set for Tiger 10.4
in order to install that new of a system on an older Mac.
If the computer does not have an optical drive capable
of reading DVD installer media, you'd need alternative
means of installing a retail Tiger system from DVD.

What computer model and build is this Discussion about, exactly?
You can see whatever it is, at everymac.com and also get a free
download database of specs & upgrade info at http://mactracker.ca

I feel so badly, wasting all of those words and time on this.
At least it isn't the first time... But I am getting wiser.

Good luck & happy computing! 🙂

If you can identify the iBook (G3 colors?) model, in the MacTracker database,
it will show you what the last supported OS X version operating system is.

*No iBook G3 or G4 "maxxes out" at only 128MB RAM.* Do you have an early
PowerBook G3? Use the serial number indentification site to narrow down
what you have; and then use MacTracker download (if you can) or Everymac
to see your computer. The info is spelled out rather well.

Without more information about that computer, others can't look it up for you.
With the product Serial Number, you could narrow down the build model and
year of manufacture; and that can be used to tell which one it is and what it
can support in the way of software and additional hardware updates.

All early iBook G3 (colors) models can support Panther 10.3.9; given the
data available for each model that I have cited and provided links to here.
You can upgrade the RAM to at least 512+ MB more by adding one chip.
You may need to upgrade the capacity of the hard disk drive if it only has
a 6GB hard drive; since you should have more to run OS X adequately.

The Apple Support pages relating to iBook hardware are not hard to navigate;
I've done so many times when I have a need to look up specific information on
a model of computer; get the MacTracker database, if you have a computer
the download can be used in. Have you looked into their web page? It helps.

From what I can find, in several sources, there is NO iBook whose RAM total
is only 128MB. I've just read through the MacTracker app I have in front of me.

Anyway, depending on what model iBook you have, it can support a later OS
X than the early and obsoleted 10.0, 10.1, 10.2; some can go with 10.3.9.
And no early OS X versions are necessary to use whatever last one the iBook
you have supports. They do not build on one-another; they are independent
and retail versions. And auction sites or resellers such as welovemacs, & other
may be able to help locate full install versions of the last supported OS installer.

You will have to try & use the information you have to access the great sites
available online, to get more information. If you do not have a computer with
a recent enough operating system (including windows XP/vista or mac 10.3+)
to use the download of MacTracker's database, check out the iBook info at
the http://everymac.com web site. All of the iBook G3/G4 computers and their
supported OS versions are listed.

Or try this site page:
• Apple iBook Specs (all iBook technical specs)
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/ibook/index-ibook.html

{You can see several iBook models, from first G3 on up to last G4.
Note there is a tiny triangle by each name; click it to read more.}

What color is the iBook? What processor version (speed) does it have?
Does it have an FireWire ports? If you can read System Profiler in either
the OS X in there, or OS 9, what is the capacity of the hard disk drive?
If you can find the Serial Number in the System Profiler, you can go online
and maybe find more about the computer from this (or other like it) site:

• Lookup Mac specs by Serial Number, etc - everymac.com:
http://www.everymac.com/ultimate-mac-lookup/

similar lookup site:
http://www.powerbookmedic.com/identify-mac-serial.php

Anyway, short of having the computer at my desk to do these things,
I really can't come up with the exact information without identification.

But you can do it fairly easily; and then post back the info (do not post
the serial number, just the results of what matches it) and what best
matches your computer as defined by MacTracker download, or by
the web site info in Everymac.com. This should be way simple.

So, to summarize; the computer probably never had OS X 10.4.0 in it.
If so, someone would have had to upgrade the RAM and hard disk drive.
And Tiger would probably have available to whoever installed it, in the
form of a retail install DVD or 4 CD set (this last item is like vaporware.)

And I have no way of knowing which of those Mac OS discs may be
actual full installer discs, or if they're from other Mac's software kits.

As it stands, I can't identify exactly the computer you have; but you
can. The links to web sites where data is easily gleaned are posted.
You have the means to resolve the questions; so I am done with this.

At this point, it would almost be easier to get an officially refurbished
Apple computer from their online store web site; they include software.

Good luck & happy computing! 🙂

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Heath:

As indicated in the post previous to this, your computer may have come with 128 GB logic board RAM, but it can be upgraded to 640 MB by installing a 512 MB module in the user serviceable slot.

Every iBook after the first iBook (1999 release) is capable of supporting Tiger (OS X 10.4.11). Indeed no iBook was released with OS X 10.0. The first iBook that was shipped with OS X installed was the late 2001, which was released with OS X 10.1.

You have a lot of install disks. Only the later iBook G4s will support Leopard (OS X 10.5x). Your problem with the disk may be the you need the Full Retail Version and not a computer specific installer. You computer will support up to Tiger.

Please do post back with further questions/comments.

😉 cornelius

After increasing your RAM, you will meet the Tiger requirements http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1514

After you install the base 10.4.x, update to the final Tiger version 10.4.11. Here's the link for the 10.4.11 combo update http://support.apple.com/kb/TA24901?viewlocale=en_US

Look at this link Mac OS X v10.4 Tiger Installing Software Support Page
http://www.apple.com/support/tiger/install/

You can also download the Tiger Installation and Setup Guide
http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/TigerInstall_SetupGuide.pdf

When you upgrade the OS, do it via Archive & Install. See About the Archive and Install feature http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1710
Be sure to select Preserve Users & Settings. Also, repair permissions before and after the install.

 Cheers, Tom 😉

Note: if they Archive and Install, you'll likely be left with only 5 GB of their 10 GB hard drive, if they do a minimal Archive and Install. That leaves one with really only 3 GB of usable space before one has to consider a larger boot hard drive. You'll likely run through that quicker than you can blink your eye. I really would strongly consider upgrading the hard drive to at least 40 GB Parallel ATA 2.5".

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