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Macbook Pro (2010) 16gb memory

Ok, I tried searching but couldn't find anything, so if I have missed it please feel free to point me in the direction of a previous post...

My problem is that I do a lot of heavy software development and I need to be mobile and as much as I love my Macbook Pro, 8GB main memory is nowhere near enough for what I need, especially with how poor the OS inappropriately blocks inactive memory. I know I can buy 8GB memory chips from Crucial to give me 16GB, and I know it may even void my warranty (but I have no choice on that front). But before I part with the cash, can I ask if anyone actually tried to put 16GB of memory into a MacBook Pro and if so does it work or am I wasting my money?

Many thanks in advance

MacBook Pro, iMac, Xserve, Mac OS X (10.6.6)

Posted on Feb 24, 2011 8:40 AM

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Aug 20, 2015 11:22 AM in response to MarquelleDavianMcKean

Like many who have posted in this thread, I too have a mid-2010 Macbook Pro, 6,1 i7-2.66MHz 17", and I came across this thread while searching for why I was limited to 8GB of memory. I have read the entire 20 pages of posts. I don't want to 'rain on anyone's parade', certainly not my own.


In this thread there are some truths, and some presumptions that are stated as truths, some observations, lots of opinions, and one fact. First, let's talk about expectations. Some people in the thread have stated that their 16GB of memory worked for a while before it failed. This does not in any way indicate that it "worked", it could just mean it failed at a different point. For me, the definition of "working" is when it doesn't fail. You may have your own opinion, as everyone is entitled. The single biggest presumption that has been made in the thread which has never been proven is this: Because the system boots, and runs for a bit, and 'About this Mac' says that the system has 16MB in it, the system HAS 16MB in it. For all we know the number in 'About this Mac' is derived from ready the SPD information (serial presence detect) read from the EPROM on the DDR memory. This in no way is proof that the system can actually read and write to the entire range of memory, so that anyone has ever actually experienced having 16GB is just an assumption at this point. No one has run a full memory test and reported it in this thread (yet). It is just as possible that the reason the system worked for a ran for a while was that it ran until the actual physical memory it was able to address got used up and then reached a memory boundary that didn't actually exist, ultimately causing a kernel panic. I don't presume this to be true, but it can't be ruled out at this point. This presumption that the system is 'working' has been repeated so many times in this thread that it's presumed to be true, and no one has ever proven that after several years. I'm sorry if this pops anyones bubble, I want a 17" laptop as much if not more than anyone, but so far the only fact contained in this thread is the Intel data sheet stating that this CPU can only address 8MB of memory. I am an EE, and have designed equipment and systems for decades. I've been paid large sums of money for finding problems with and telling manufacturers how to fix their products. I've read thousands of data sheets and discovered some of the most important things in a data sheet is what's not in the data sheet, because it's likely something the manufacturer doesn't want you to know. The two things I've never found in a data sheet are- a lie- and- a mistake in a highly significant parameter. So when Intel's data sheet says that our microprocessors only support 8GB of memory address space, well it's hard to ignore.


If you want to hope for something, my opinion is you have a better chance of hoping Apple comes out with a 17" laptop than you have of getting a Macbook Pro 6,1 with Nvidia graphics working. I hope that happens, I'll be in line with you to buy one if it does, but as for my current 17", it will make a nice laptop to put in my rolltop desk and use for paying bills, surfing the web, Skype and FaceTime, and fold up and disappear when I'm not using it. But the fact is, the CPU is old and slow, the memory is slow and small, it's USB2 not USB3 or USB3.1 or thunderbolt, even the Nvidia graphics are anemic by todays standards and at this point it's really too slow for a workstation for anything I use like Lightroom, Photoshop, Prelude, Media Encoder, Avid Media Composer, Autocad, etc, and it's time to accept that and move on. The possibility of even getting 16MB of memory working reliably is so incredibly small I'm not going to pursue it any longer. I hope if you still are trying to get 16GB to work that you succeed, because I hate the thought of anyone spending their life tilting at windmills.

Oct 23, 2015 12:25 AM in response to jk246

There is a lot info in your artical. That helps the rest of us about this problem of more ram in our Mac Book Pro. I've read all of the same pages it doesn't talk anything about the speed of the ram. What I found out is that purchased 16gb 2x8 and it didn't work either. So, I talked to the tech at Crucial and what he said was the ram I bought was to fast. I've read more from other blogs and it seems to be an issue all over. Now I've ordered the same speed as my 8gb and we'll see if this work. As the tech said slow it way down and it should work. X your fingers and we'll see. I'll let you know if it does or not.

I'm running a Mid-2010 MacBook Pro 17" w/1tb ssd. We need more speed. MORE IS Better


kk

Oct 23, 2015 11:39 AM in response to klkirsch

Hi Everyone,


I went through this process a couple of years ago, and, unfortunately found that ONLY the 13" MBP of this series has the capability of being upgraded to more than 8gb. The 15 and 17 inch models use the RAM to assist in the video, and for this reason can't be expanded beyond 8 gb. The need for upgrade seems to have arisen after another model had replaced this series, so Apple abandoned this model and didn't make any revisions in the firmware to allow any kind of work around, which renders these otherwise excellent computers obsolete in terms of handling programs that would work best with over 8gb RAM.

I had to buy a newer MBP to get over 16 gb RAM, and gave the otherwise perfectly good MBP 15" to my stepdaughter, who uses it more casually.

Nov 6, 2015 11:28 AM in response to DarioVale

Hi Everyone,


I went through this process a couple of years ago, and, unfortunately found that ONLY the 13" MBP of this series has the capability of being upgraded to more than 8gb. The 15 and 17 inch models use the RAM to assist in the video, and for this reason can't be expanded beyond 8 gb. The need for upgrade seems to have arisen after another model had replaced this series, so Apple abandoned this model and didn't make any revisions in the firmware to allow any kind of work around, which renders these otherwise excellent computers obsolete in terms of handling programs that would work best with over 8gb RAM.

I had to buy a newer MBP to get over 16 gb RAM, and gave the otherwise perfectly good MBP 15" to my stepdaughter, who uses it more casually.


Further comment: IMO, Apple has abandoned this problem, having moved on by several model updates now. It is most annoying, when you consider that a firmware patch would probably have allowed RAM upgrade.

Nov 17, 2015 1:41 PM in response to port77

This is for all the naysayers and/or people in doubt. I own a mid 2010 17" MBP with 2.66 GHz processor, and currently run Yosemite. I bought a 16GB kit from OWC and put it in just now. Works fine. I even called OWC to let them know this, so that they could update their website to be able to sell the kit they advertise only for the 13" to 17" owners.


I trust the following screen shot should put everyone's minds who were wondering about this to rest:


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Nov 28, 2015 10:08 AM in response to marcelodamon

Well Marcelodamon I supposed you've tried the 16.0GB (8.0GB + 8.0GB) OWC PC8500 DDR3 1066MHz SO-DIMM 204 Pin kit?


I've also a MBP 17" 2.66GHz macbook6,1 mid-2010 model with nvidia 330M


Did someone tried that 16GB kit with either El Capitan or Tonymacx86's multibeast 8.0.1 update, in order to check that hypothesis of an EFI/nvram 8Gb memory software lock? Or maybe, the updated graphic drivers may remove the limitation?


food for thoughts,

Macbook Pro (2010) 16gb memory

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