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Macbook Pro (2010) 16gb memory

Ok, I tried searching but couldn't find anything, so if I have missed it please feel free to point me in the direction of a previous post...

My problem is that I do a lot of heavy software development and I need to be mobile and as much as I love my Macbook Pro, 8GB main memory is nowhere near enough for what I need, especially with how poor the OS inappropriately blocks inactive memory. I know I can buy 8GB memory chips from Crucial to give me 16GB, and I know it may even void my warranty (but I have no choice on that front). But before I part with the cash, can I ask if anyone actually tried to put 16GB of memory into a MacBook Pro and if so does it work or am I wasting my money?

Many thanks in advance

MacBook Pro, iMac, Xserve, Mac OS X (10.6.6)

Posted on Feb 24, 2011 8:40 AM

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Dec 9, 2012 11:48 PM in response to port77

I knew I wasn't crazy for suspecting some kind of "programmed" limitation! I hope someone comes along and helps us out.


Now my Toshiba Qosmio X305 with a Core 2 Duo is running fine with 8GB of RAM on 2 DIMMs, but when I even put in ONE of the 8GB DIMMs, it wouldn't even post to BIOS. This is a clear example of a simply hardware incompatibility. If the hardware physically doesn't support it, the motherboard won't even recognize it and the machine just won't power up, period.


With the 16GB installed on my MacBook Pro, it still loads the EFI and everything. If our 2010 MacBook Pros didn't physically support the 16GB RAM, I doubt it'd even turn on.


I also know that there is someone out there who's moral conscience is burning and now duty bound to reply to this with something like:


"The 2010 MacBook Pro only supports 8GB RAM. Read your owners manual. If Apple wanted you to install 16GB RAM, they would have supported it. Using unauthorized RAM is not covered under AppleCare, etc... If you want more RAM, buy a new MacBook Pro" Yadda yadda yadda...


Yes, I can read an owners manual and understand that what we're trying to do may not be supported officially by Apple.




Dec 11, 2012 8:52 PM in response to hackintosh1800

I'm in agreement with you. I have a 17" MacBook Pro (which you can't even GET brand new anymore).


This takes me back to just before I owned a MBP and ran Snow Leopard on my Toshiba Qosmio. That required EFI mods galore.


I don't know much about EFI modding myself, but it'd be nice to see someone out there find an EFI mod around this soft block.


Maybe there could be a DSDT mod or string injection to force support/recognition?

Dec 12, 2012 2:43 AM in response to caseno7358

So guys...I got my 2x8GB and I tried to install them on my macbook pro early 2010 and nothing workerd. Actually the laptop does boot but it get stuck at black screen with many codes on that....



Now, dear hackintosh1800, could you please explain me how to try with the EFI update?! The thing is that my laptop has already instaklled the latest EFI available so I think I am actually stuck!


Please....guys help me!

Dec 12, 2012 4:44 AM in response to stedman1

My dear stedman,


first of all my macbook pro is an early 2010 model, or at least that's how Apple calls it (http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1492).


Second, thanks for the information about the maximum ram supported by my mac but...do you think I wasn't aware of that?! Would I write to a thread called "Macbook Pro 2010 16 GB memory" if I was not looking for extra help??!


..probably you have not even read the title of the thread...


Thanks for your science anyway. 🙂

Cheers*

Dec 12, 2012 9:16 PM in response to stedman1

The Early/Mid 2010 MBP (you know, that one released in April 2010 or more specifically the MacBook Pro 6,1) OFFICIALLY per Apple ONLY supports 8GB of RAM.


SO! Per Apple, the MacBook Pro 6,1 has a documented maximum capacity of 8GB of RAM. OFFICIALLY, this conversation should be over. Everyone here insisting that the MacBook Pro 6,1 only officially supports 8GB of RAM is 100% completely and totally correct.


The issue hackintosh1800 and myself are discussing is not what Apple officially tells us the machine supports. We know that the MacBook Pro 6,1 only OFFICIALLY supports 8GB RAM. It was right there in our owners manuals when we bought the machines. It's in the support documentation. Several people here have generously reminded us of this right here in the forums.


The issue we are talking about is whether this is a physical hardware incompatibility, e.g. the logicboard and chipset simply does not mathematically support the 2x 8GB RAM sticks I put in there, versus a soft block, e.g. the EFI was programmed by Apple to only allow a max of 8GB RAM. Similar to CPUs, kind of. Is the CPU limited to 2.0Ghz because it physically gets to hot and melts itself OR has it been limited to this speed by the BIOS and thus can be overclocked.


More simply, let's say I have a car that cannot go any faster than 65mph. Is my car's speed limited because the engine simply is not powerful enough to go any faster OR has someone installed a speed limiter/governor. (the metaphors are endless here)


Hackintosh1800 and myself have both successfully gotten the machine to turn on with one or both of the 2x 8GB DIMMS installed.


I bought this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006DI9PG8/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00


I couldn't get it to boot into Windows 7 or OSX with latest EFI, but I could boot into Fedora 17 and it showed 15.6GB RAM installed and had no problems. We're trying to determine if the machine is really just unable to accept 16GB RAM or has Apple purposely limited the machine to 8GB RAM. If the incompatibility is as simple as the hardware cannot accept 16GB RAM, then this conversation is futile. If it's a soft block, e.g. Apple simply does not want us to have 16GB RAM for whatever reason, then maybe the EFI can be unofficially modded to allow the machine to use it (someone out there is likely horrified at such a suggestion).


The issue for me surround the installation of 16GB RAM seems to be Apple's hardware checking. On start up, Fedora 17 noted specifically that the installed RAM failed the EFI hardware check, but let me boot anyways and work without issue. It's 10:45PM CST and I don't feel like taking my MBP apart again to reinstall the 16GB RAM. I plan on returning the RAM to Amazon, but I could install it again and video what happens for show and tell I guess :-/


For what it's worth, it is important to note that the RAM I purchased has a latency of 9-9-9-24 and limited to 1333mhz, the same latency of my 8GB RAM (2x 4GB DIMMS). I've read that even trying to install 8GB RAM at some latencies on our models have caused instabilities.


My suspicions of a soft block from Apple actually begin with the current Corsair 8GB RAM I installed after I purchased it. The RAM was 8GB (2x 4GB DIMMS) clocked at 1333mhz. Interestingly, the documentation says that my machine supported a max clock speed of 1066mhz and, of course, OSX shows 8GB RAM installed, clocked at 1066mhz, BUT when I boot into Windows 7 Enterprise, it shows 8GB RAM installed clocked at 1333mhz. If the hardware supposedly only supports 1066mhz, then why does Windows clock my RAM at 1333mhz? Windose is a ***** OS. If my RAM is trying to run faster than the hardware supports, it would throw a BSOD and die.


We're just expressing our concern that there might not be any physical hardware issue and the Apple Police may be just trying to play nanny with our machines.

Dec 13, 2012 8:54 PM in response to stedman1

How dense are you? I clearly said I am running 12gb as of my last post WITH NO CRASHES OR ERRORS, on a 2010 mbp. So it clearly is NOT a hardware issue.


If you can't do anything but quote mfg specs, please don't post. I am very well aware what apple says, and I am also very well aware of what OEM intel chipsets ( like the one inside a mbp) support.


Now, to get both 8gb modules running, does anyone know if its possible to say flash the hardware id on the ram to a 4gb module while retaining full 8gb in operation?

Dec 13, 2012 10:10 PM in response to hackintosh1800

Interesting turn of events. So , i decided to switch the order of the two 8gb modules, put the top one in the bottom and the bottom in the top...

Windows 7 64 bit now runs with no crashing or issues, and sees a full 16gb of ram Minus the videocard ( screenshots coming)


OS X 10.8 does not boot with both 8gb modules installed or one 8gb module. Windows 7 boots with one 8gb module by itself.


Long story short I am typing this in windows 7 with 16gb ram on a 2010 13 inch mbp... I opened up steam , LA noire, Sonic Generations and half life 2 episode 2 , no crashes even under gaming load..


This is definately a soft block, not a hardware limitation to all the nay sayers, otherwise why the heck would windows 7 fully run 16gb with no freezing or crashing.


That being said, the newest efi for the 13 inch 2010 mbp does NOT solve the issue, I am actually wondering now that I reversed the modules, if the an older EFI version would allow os X to boot with 16gb installed.



Anyone know how to downgrade EFIs?

Macbook Pro (2010) 16gb memory

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