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MacBook Pro 2011 17" hard freeze

Overheat? The fans revved and suddenly I could use nothing but the cursor. Had to hold down the power switch to kill all and then re-power & startup. I wasn't doing anything unusual, but I had 7 apps open and was amid an auto-backup to TimeMachine.

Just a little disillusioned and concerned, wondering if anyone else there has experienced a hard freeze like this.

macbook pro 17" 2011, Mac OS X (10.6.6)

Posted on Mar 1, 2011 11:15 AM

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Mar 21, 2011 10:22 AM in response to Rensoom

@Adrian J.

I also find that the most consistent. Mine freezes almost immediately after clicking "1000".

Guys, the problem, like the wiki states, is likely not related to the heat production of the machine. If overheating was causing the computer to lock down, people would not be able to SSH while black screen'ed and music would not be playing in the background. The problem is almost undoubtably due to the switching of the video cards.

Mar 21, 2011 10:26 AM in response to Rensoom

I just received my replacement MBP 15" 2.2ghz this morning. Nothing installed on it beyond the stock OS. When I run a couple benchmarks at the same time (for example, cputest 0.2 and the displacement opencl benchmark at the same time) It just a matter of time before it locks up.

Not only that, the speakers crackle badly when playing anything, including the mac boot up sound.

I am so disappointed that I am beyond words. Clearly, none of the 3 grand I spent on this thing went into QA.

Mar 21, 2011 10:29 AM in response to Rensoom

Confirmed on my new 2011 Macbook Pro 15" 2.2 Ghz. I noticed the hard freeze while running Second Life, and can reliably reproduce it every time by taxing both the GPU and CPU such as using the first test case at:

http://mbp-freeze.wikispaces.com/
(Run the Cinebench R11 OpenGL test while the CPU is taxed e.g. 8 "yes" processes or video encoding)

Only solution for me is to hold power to turn the system off. Has not happened when the system is idle or when only the CPU or GPU is taxed.

Mar 21, 2011 10:35 AM in response to amadeoh

@ amadeoh

that would be at least one relief (if Chrome were the issue and not the computer). and I join you in your displeasure.

I, for one, sincerely hope that the issue here is software. Nothing worse than using a computer that you feel like is going to stop working on you for no apparent reason at any moment. All of my freezes have come when the sensors were reading relatively normal temperatures. A little warm, but nothing shocking. Nothing higher than 85C.

Also, if anyone has any insight as to why the maximum fan speed i can get is 5500 while others are getting 6200...I'm all ears. My OSX temps never get above 91C...but I'd still like to know why I'm getting a lower max rpm speed than some others and if there's anything I can do about it.

Mar 21, 2011 10:37 AM in response to Rensoom

@Adrian J.

With gfxStatusCard set to Integrated only, are the freezes supposed to stop altogether?

I was just running 1000 fish and was happy that it ran for ~1 minute without freezing the computer. Then, as I alt-tabbed to Chrome to come post my findings here, it freezes. Again, music plays fine in the background and mouse moves freely.

Mar 21, 2011 10:46 AM in response to Ethics

@ Ethics

Under "integrated only" graphics using Chrome, my computer freezes consistently inside of 15 seconds or so with that fish test.

I have about 25 tabs open, but nothing else. But hopefully as one poster noted recently, it may be an issue with Chrome or the WebGL fish application itself. I certainly hope so.

edit: @ ideaz

It's really your call and yours alone. I believe it to be a software issue that will be fixed via update. It could, however, be a hardware issue which necessitates sending these machines out for repairs. As such, you have 2 options:

1.) Wait it out and see. You deal with the issues until they get fixed via software or via hardware repair @ Apple. Worst case scenario is that it does require physical repair (nobody wants a laptop that had to be repaired/refurbished)....or that the software fix takes MONTHS instead of days.

2.) Return to Apple before your 14 days are up. Exchange for a new one or get your money back and wait until the fix is known. Of course, you're without a MBP during this period of time.

It's a tough decision, but one all of us are facing. I don't yet know what I'm going to do, but I'll be doing it in the next 7 hours. That I am sure of.

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Mar 21, 2011 10:42 AM in response to Rensoom

Yesterday my new macbook freezed when starting up from sleep. Before i put it to sleep i had xcode with the iphone simulator running. I could move the mouse cursor but the system did not respond to clicks and had to hard reset the macbook.

Today i saw the freeze issue on a blog and tried to reproduce the freeze with the information from http://mbp-freeze.wikispaces.com/ I tried option 1 and 3 but they didn't let the macbook freeze.

Then i tried everything at the same time (running photoboot, watching Youtube HD video's, xcode with iphone simulator, re-encode HD video, etc.) and still the macbook didn't freeze.

So i tried the the test with the aquarium in Google Chrome. At first it didn't crash until i downloaded the tool http://codykrieger.com/gfxCardStatus . When i did switch to integrated and started the aqarium it still didn't crash. But when i click on 1000 fishes the whole system crashed within 5 seconds.

I hope there will be more info soon about the issue.

Mar 21, 2011 10:42 AM in response to Rensoom

New MBP 17" 2.3GHz, 8GB RAM. Has never crashed, even under heavy load.

FWIW: I use Fan Control, I have it set to a low of 129F/54C and a high of 171F/77C:
http://www.lobotomo.com/products/FanControl/

I use System Load to load the CPUs:
http://www.bresink.com/osx/SystemLoad.html

With all cores running at 100%, the highest temp I see is 180F/82C. And I'm not crashing!

I have run Geekbench in all modes with issue. I also ran CineBench without issue.

If all the new MBPs are affected, then Fan Control MAY be why I haven't crashed.

Mar 21, 2011 10:49 AM in response to ideazinfinite

This has been a very disappointing purchase for me. I was very excited to get back on the Mac bandwagon and treat myself to a nice new 15" 2.2 MBP. I immediately noticed the problems with home sharing. That bummed me out a lot because I use home sharing every day between my phone, PCs, and Apple TV. I was kind of on the fence about what to do about it since I really liked the machine. Then I read about the freezing issues this morning. I felt agitated all day at work just thinking about it. I came home on my lunch break, fired up Photo Booth, ran yes > /dev/null & 8 times in terminal, and waited. The fans started roaring like a jet engine and the laptop started getting really hot on my lap.

Then it froze.

...

I am so incredibly disappointed in this $2K+ laptop. I'm even more disappointed that I had to order a custom build for the high res screen, so now if I want to return it I have to pay for shipping back. All for a product that seemingly can't do what my 3 year old ThinkPad can do.

Oh, and my new Colcasac sleeve just got delivered too. Even MORE shipping costs to eat over this stupid laptop.

Mar 21, 2011 10:53 AM in response to cyborgsam

@ cyborgasm,

no, Fan Control doesn't fix it. I tried that earlier. Also, that app is pretty darn irritating to uninstall. lol.

@ Patranhadas,

welcome to the club. hopefully, the crash we're experiencing with Chrome has something to do with either Chrome or the WebGL application itself. Of course, I really don't know for sure. :-/

@ amadeoh,

same here. no problems under Windows (though to be fair, Windows does not use the integrated graphics and it is not an option to test it). and some freezes come when the computer is only in the 60C range. the issues are not [always] temperature-dependent...and may not be temperature-dependent at all. it may be something else entirely. we just don't know...and maybe Apple doesn't know either.

@ hark,

I believe you can walk it into an Apple store and return it there.

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Message was edited by: Adrian J.

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