Does iPad 2 WiFi Really Have No GPS???

Chris CA wrote:

equant wrote:

Only thing i notice when i am using the memory-map/google map when i driving ,it didnt tell me the speed or arltitude. so I think it have GPS chip only can receive location from the GPS sattellite, not any other data.

Correct. GPS is satellites

But A-GPS also gets data from cell towers.

-> http://gps.about.com/od/glossary/g/A-GPS.htm

Though if you have a Wi-Fi only iPad, you have no ability to communicate with cell towers.

William Kucharski wrote:

Chris CA wrote:

equant wrote:

Only thing i notice when i am using the memory-map/google map when i driving ,it didnt tell me the speed or arltitude. so I think it have GPS chip only can receive location from the GPS sattellite, not any other data.

Correct. GPS is satellites

But A-GPS also gets data from cell towers.

-> http://gps.about.com/od/glossary/g/A-GPS.htm

Though if you have a Wi-Fi only iPad, you have no ability to communicate with cell towers.

Which is why A-GPS is only available on a iPad that has GPS. I can see where Chris's statement might seem a bit unclear. A-GPS, as has been explained in this thread, is GPS with an added bonus of also getting information from cell towers.

The bottom line is that an iPad WiFi only model doesn't have a GPS chip. The iPad may be able to locate your location, but probably wouldn't be too accurate and would not be very good with navigation apps. If you want to use a WiFi only iPad for navigation, 1. get an app that stores the maps on the iPad or you will need to connect it to a mobile hotspot device or tether it to a cell phone. 2. Get an external GPS device such as a Bad Elf GPS, or a Dual Bluetooth GPS.

I just went for a walk around the block with my iPad 2 and I left my phone at home. With the GPS app that I have, it followed me all the way around the block with NO WI-FI signal at all. It wasn't that percise, but it worked. The Ipad must have a GPS or this wouldn't have worked.

Philly_Phan wrote:

This is unbelievable. Twenty-four pages of posts to say "The WiFi-only iPad does not have GPS."

Almost as unbelievable as yet another flat-earther tries to recycle the whole darn thread again. It must be the date.

CraigTube wrote:

I just went for a walk around the block with my iPad 2 and I left my phone at home. With the GPS app that I have, it followed me all the way around the block with NO WI-FI signal at all. It wasn't that percise, but it worked. The Ipad must have a GPS or this wouldn't have worked.

Repeat after me:

The WiFi-only iPad does not have GPS.

The WiFi-only iPad does not have GPS.

The WiFi-only iPad does not have GPS.

One thing that you might do is go to Settings/WiFi and walk a different route and watch all of the wifi networks that your iPad makes contact with as you walk around. Then turn the wifi off and walk yet a third route and see if the iPad "follows" your route. If it doesn't know where your are the 3rd time with wifi turned off, you have your answer.

As stated more than once in this thread, the wifi only relies on a data base of "known" wifi networks to establish where it is.

One of the reasons I don't normally do forums. People expect newcomers to read the entire forum before posting something. I simply went for a walk with my wi-fi ipad and it tracked me. Just like I descovered that the ipad speaker system is actually stereo, I thought I had run across something to help people. Yet people get mad at you because you came in late in the game and didn't read 24 bloddy pages of posts. Geesh.

CraigTube wrote:

One of the reasons I don't normally do forums. People expect newcomers to read the entire forum before posting something.

Well, it would have been nice had you read some of it instead of just blasting out your flat-earth theory. The WiFi-only iPad does not have GPS.

CraigTube wrote:

One of the reasons I don't normally do forums. People expect newcomers to read the entire forum before posting something. I simply went for a walk with my wi-fi ipad and it tracked me. Just like I descovered that the ipad speaker system is actually stereo, I thought I had run across something to help people. Yet people get mad at you because you came in late in the game and didn't read 24 bloddy pages of posts. Geesh.

Because, when you don't read the entire thread, you run the risk of saying something that has been said numerous times, or, as in this case, not understanding what you're talking about and saying things that are simply wrong. It is standard forum (not just here, either) etiquette to read and understand before posting.

"People expect newcomers to read the entire forum before posting something"

No, but you should at least read the thread you post in.

"Just like I descovered that the ipad speaker system is actually stereo"

Except that it isn't. There is only one speaker on the iPad. It does play both l/r channels and the headphone output is stereo but a single speaker cannot be stereo.

Chris CA wrote:

It's two speakers but only mono sound (both speakers have same output.).

I've read it both ways... some say it is stereo, some say it isn't. Doesn't really matter to me... it sounds fine for what it was designed for. If I wanted better sound, I'd connect external speakers.

Oh, I was waiting for this..

Here's the proof.

Search "ipad speaker stereo" on YouTube. Watch the first video in the results.

The ipad speaker system IS stereo. I proved it.

Looling forward to your response.

Chris CA wrote:

It's two speakers but only mono sound (both speakers have same output.).

It would be foolish to make them true stereo because they're much too close to one another. The listener would still hear mono.

The reason they make the two speakers stereo, even though they are right next to eachother is to avoid compression artifacts when playing back low bitrate mp3 files. Playing these files back in true mono can sound horrible. My experiment shows without a doubt that the two speakers in the ipad are actually stereo. Search on YouTube for "ipad speakers stereo". There's no doubt, and you can do this yourself to prove it.

Cheers