Does iPad 2 WiFi Really Have No GPS???

antiguangenius wrote:

trolling??? and unwisely??? wow such choice of words..... yea you doubting me.... i know my ipad does gps and thats the bottom line.... say what you want...... i know what i know and you're just speculating..... have fun doinf that....

If your iPad does GPS then you have a wifi+3g iPad, not a wifi only iPad. There is no speculation, read the iPad specifications. http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/ whicjh states that:

the wifi only iPad determines location using

• wifi
• digital compass.

the wifi + 3G iPad determines location using

• Wi-Fi
• Digital compass
• Assisted GPS
• Cellular

first off guys GPS is independent it DOESNT require a 3G Radio... I don't see why you guys keep stressing that.... most GPS device doesn't have a 3G Radio they use satellite to triangulate its position.... 3g radio is for data.... i have a motorola xoom wifi and it has GPS Radio Hardware and is works fine data or not, the data is just used to download the maps pic while u move and the GPS shows the location on that map based on the Longitude and Latitude of it location on that same map.... the data is also used for google maps buzz services... i just got an ipad 2 wifi not sure of the GPS but i cant see why apply couldn't include a GPS hardware... its a cheap add-on, if its not really there apple is truly being cheap in the ipad development.... i can say when i open maps on my xoom is says searching for gps then is locks in i have apps on my xoom that talks directly with gps hardware that displays satellite, coordinates, and speeds status etc.... i will have to test that on my ipad 2 wifi to see if it has hardware or not....

XOOM WIFI Screen Shot!!

ok i see you're hurt by what i said but unless you can prove there is an actually GPS radio u should be carrying feelings... I don't need to sell my iphone 4 or iPad 2 that defeats the purpose of buying them in the first place... I'm just saying the GPS is not what it suppose to be apple making it seems like without 3G Radio GPS is impossible but its not if the use GPS Hardware and not rely on cell towers.... doesnt mean im giving up my ios devices, i got a mac pro latest model, mac book pro latest model, mac mini latest model, apple tv latest model, ipad 2 and iphone 4 as u see im an apple guy just like u but i aint no fool.....

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Neither wifi nor 3g are needed for the gps to work. Are you sure you have the right iPad?

And have you found the User Guide?

The User Guide is available at http://support.apple.com/manuals/ or downloadable from iTunes as an iBook.

I'm not sure where you see a post about three of anything. But your post said 2 Ls, and I'm not sure what you are speaking of there. Plus you don't need an apostrophe.

Perhaps you should concentrate on your school work and stop trying to correct folks.

rockmyplimsoul wrote:

stevejobsfan0123 wrote:

rockmyplimsoul wrote:

so one more minor correction ... satellites do not actually transmit lattitude and longitude information to a GPS receiver.

One minor correction: Latitude. Two L's.

And one more ... it was actually two T's 😉

I did spell it correctly with two Ts. You spelled it incorrectly with THREE Ts.

I can get really sticky and tell you that you incorrectly put an apostrophe betweel the "T" and the "s." The apostrophe does not belong there because the "T" is not possessive. Of course, I would never say that!

There is no such thing as a "WiFi A-GPS server".

We already said that non-GPS iPads (and the iPod Touch) can receive location information by polling WiFi routers. http://www.pcworld.com/article/201486/apple_location_data_collection_policies_wh at_you_need_to_know.html

You also might want to read this thread although it is a bit dated:

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3078494?start=0&tstart=0

I'm guessing you are about 15 years old and attempting to impress everyone here.

Ptero32 wrote:

You guys have no ideas what your talking about. It has a gps chip. Apple in thier wisdom turns it off with no wifi connection. Which is totally lame.

WiFi models do have GPS. For some reason they turn it off when there is no wifi connection. I operate several boats and use iNavx, iRegatta and other apps with various iPads both 3G and WiFi only. I use a Toughbook in adhoc network mode to create a wifi connection. I can guarantee the Toughbook has no position information. When i connect my iPad to the onboard wifi created by this Toughbook the gps comes alive. It is absoluty as accurate as my Garmin hand held gps. I am out in the ocean, there is no land based connection and you guys want to tell me this data is coming from the the wifi, hahahahah.

😁 Better tell someone where you are going so they can send out searchers to find you. Once again, the wifi-only iPads do not have GPS functionality.

Read the specifications http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/, under "Location".

Since I have been a part of this thread since day one, I know for a fact that as early as pages 4 & 5 in this thread folks covered how location services in the wi-fi only iPad 2 function and gave the link to Apple's explanation for location services a number of times, your question was answered. But perhaps what you haven't grasped is that Find My iPad is using the wi-fi iPad's location services to tell you were the iPad is located.

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4995

Bluetooth is enabled at both devices, they seem not to find each other

They are not supposed to find each other (unless you have tethering enabled).

If you don't know what it is, you do not have it, as it usually costs extra.

See this -> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4517

it actually means nothing of the sort, and you clearly don't understand everything that you think you know. FYI, the following is one of many blurbs available online discussing the difference:

Okay, first let's do the basic definitions: aGPS = assisted global positioning system, while just regular GPS is non-assisted.

So who's assisting and why does it matter? When you use a GPS system and you turn it on, it needs to find orbit and clock data for the relevant satellites, this in turn results in what is called TTFF, or Time To First Fix how long before you get your location pinpointed. This initial TTFF is often called a cold start and on SiRF IIIsystems (the latest GPS systems available), it can take anywhere from 30 seconds to a couple of minutes to acquire a signal. That time is dependent on your location, amount of interference and horizon information: open fields are faster than canyons or urban environments where buildings can interfere with the satellite-receiver line of site.

But when you use assisted GPS this whole process is much faster. Very often cellular network towers have GPS receivers (or a base station nearby) and those receivers are constantly pulling down satellite information and computing the data. This data is then passed on to the cellular phone (when requested) and acts like a cheat since the relevant satellites to your location are already identified and all that GPS computations is handled by 3rd party computers. This is the result of such a system, to you the end user:

• Faster location acquisition
• Less processing power is required by the device
• Saves battery life
• Location acquisition indoors or in non-optimal environmental settings