You can make a difference in the Apple Support Community!

When you sign up with your Apple Account, you can provide valuable feedback to other community members by upvoting helpful replies and User Tips.

Looks like no one’s replied in a while. To start the conversation again, simply ask a new question.

Power Supply for Macintosh IIsi system

Our preacher at our local church used this old computer for his sermons
and now the computer won't turn on and I think it is the power supply.
Would anyone know where to get a old mac IIsi or a new power supply so
we can get the sermons off and look at buying him a new apple computer.

macintosh IIsi, Mac OS X (10.4)

Posted on Mar 11, 2011 5:37 PM

Reply
9 replies

Mar 11, 2011 6:56 PM in response to brg2630

Before assuming that the power supply is bad, you should consider replacing the internal 3.6-volt, ½AA lithium battery found on the motherboard. A very weak or dead one can cause startup problems, so you want to rule it out first. The battery can be purchased from a number of online vendors or from a battery specialty retail store in your area. If that doesn't solve the problem, you can always check eBay or a local Mac User Group (if any) for a used replacement P/S. If a used power supply is just a temporary measure to bridge the gap until buying a newer computer, maybe you should consider another approach. What program was used to write the sermons - (MacWrite, ClarisWorks/AppleWorks, Microsoft Word, etc.) and what OS version was the IIci running? You could always remove the internal SCSI hard drive and install it in a slightly newer (but used) Mac computer that's capable of running the program (or its PowerPC version) and opening the files. Some more info would be helpful, to provide the best advice.

Mar 12, 2011 12:15 PM in response to brg2630

My IIci power supply has started to fail, too - I have to hold in the power button on the back for a while before it'll start up. I'll likely need to replace it sometime soon, so I'll be watching eBay for that.

If you don't have luck with that and don't have access to older hardware to swap around with, services like RetroFloppy ( http://retrofloppy.com) could be of use too.

Mar 12, 2011 6:10 PM in response to brg2630

I check the power supply output with a volt meter and it is dead.


I do not understand how you can say that.

Unless you have asserted the power-On signal, the supply remains mostly off until it gets a signal (from the keyboard logic) to turn on. It will appear to be dead except perhaps for Trickle Power. This feature is called "Soft Power".

The switch on the supply, if any, is merely a service switch. It does NOT turn the power supply on to full function.

Macintosh IIsi: Technical Specifications

Mar 14, 2011 1:21 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Grant,

That was my thought, too. For all the computers and all the power supplies over the years, I have never memorized the power leads for mac soft power. Do you happen to have a quick link to the pin out for various mac power supplies?
.
.
.

brg 2630,

Here is a little more detail on what Grant is saying. If you take a power supply out of a PC and notice that it does not have an on/off switch, you have to ask yourself how the power supply turns on in the first place. The green wire gets a low voltage signal from the keyboard. That signal closes a relay that starts the power supply in full. If you want to use that power supply for a science project, you can take a paper clip, bend it into a 'U' shape and poke it into the green wire pin contact and the black wire contact beside it. That is how you hot-wire a PC power supply that does not have an on/off switch - in fact, even if the supply has an on switch, you may still have to trigger the supply using the green lead. Some energy save capable supplies may even need to see a load to stay on. More on that at in the wikihow site video.

In twenty five years and hundreds of mac computers later, I do not recall ever mapping the Mac power supplies. I just swap out with another supply. So, I can not say that it is the green lead that signals a mac supply. Something new to do.

Here is a wikihow page that discusses the idea in greater detail. Notice under "tips" that they give the option for skipping a switch by connecting the green and black leads.

http://www.wikihow.com/Convert-a-Computer-ATX-Power-Supply-to-a-Lab-Power-Supply

So, for your computer, you first need to confirm that the power supply is dead. Meanwhile, the hard drive will hopefully migrate to a more capable machine.

Jim

PS Somewhere in the last ten years is a discussion post on converting an ATX style PC power supply to work in a Mac G4 or earlier machine. That will have the pin assignments listed. Unfortunately, the machine with that book mark is a hundred miles away right now.

Mar 16, 2011 5:28 PM in response to brg2630

The power supply out of the macintosh IIsi only has a plug with 10 pinouts, If I made a mistake and check the power supply and thought it was bad can I check anywhere on the motherboard for proper voltage to see if it is bad? I checked the battery and it was still at 3.6v and the fuse was good. The fan on the back panel of the computer does not turn on either.

Power Supply for Macintosh IIsi system

Welcome to Apple Support Community
A forum where Apple customers help each other with their products. Get started with your Apple Account.