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GoldFran Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
Hi guys!

I have a great problem with my MBP 2011 and Boot Camp utilities... I need Windows to my job and the other tings. I tried install some Windows I have... Winws 7 x86 and x64, Windows XP... but it´s impossible mission

My Macbook Pro is modified:

- Core i5 2,3Ghz
- 8Gb OWC DDR3-1333Mhz
- 128 Gb OWC SSD (replacing superdrive)
- 320 Gb HDD (factory)

I have done the following things:

- Install Windows 7 with USB Key ---> nothing
- Install Windows 7 with external USB DVD Drive --> nothing
- Install Windows 7 used boot camp wizard of OSX Lion --> nothing

the problem is the same... When run and finish boot camp wizard reboot normally but the display goes black and installation dont continue... only blinking cursor "_"...

I dont find any solutions... I´m desperate puff

Ahh... I have installs rEFIt boot, but I dont think that influences, righ?

¿is it normally?... I don´t think...

Thx

PD: Sorry I´m from Spain and my inglish is a litte bad I hope you undertand my problem

Message was edited by: JacksSsS

iMac 27" Mid 2010: i7/4Gb/1Tb/ATI HD 5750, Mac OS X (10.6.7)
  • 1. Re: Macbook Pro 2011 13-inch not loading Windows SO (never SOs...) ¿Why?
    GoldFran Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    and error
  • 2. Re: Macbook Pro 2011 13-inch not loading Windows SO (never SOs...) ¿Why?
    GoldFran Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Hi again

    I asked to OWC customer support... I tell us the problem (if the OWC It´s not compatible bla bla...)

    He sayd:

    *"Thank you for contacting OWC. I am sorry to hear that you're experiencing issues trying to update the firmware on your SSD. If you are trying to install Windows from an external optical drive it unfortunately will not work. Bootcamp will only allow Windows installations from internal optical drives. So to be able to install Windows and update the firmware, you will need to install the SSD into the primary drive bay and reinstall the optical drive."*

    is this true?
  • 3. Re: Macbook Pro 2011 13-inch not loading Windows SO (never SOs...) ¿Why?
    Asatoran Level 4 Level 4 (2,535 points)
    - Install Windows 7 used boot camp wizard of OSX Lion --> nothing

    the problem is the same... When run and finish boot camp wizard reboot normally but the display goes black and installation dont continue... only blinking cursor "_"...


    You're trying to install Windows 7 in Boot Camp on a machine loaded with OSX 10.7 (Lion)? If so, then you should be asking in the Apple Developer forums since only developers are supposed to have OSX Lion at this time. (There is a specific section in the developer forums for Boot Camp.) If you're not a developer, then you shouldn't be running Lion, and discussion of Lion technical issues I'm pretty certain wouldn't be allowed on these forums.
  • 4. Re: Macbook Pro 2011 13-inch not loading Windows SO (never SOs...) ¿Why?
    GoldFran Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Hi Asatoran

    I install OS Lion long time ago to test VoiceOver for visual disability community. not related to the problem

    I allways use OSX Snow Leopard 10.6.7. Lion only SO test

    since I have installed Lion, I took the opportunity to test Boot Camp because with OSX Snow Leopard 10.6.7 and BC 3.0.2 this problem is not solved.

    unfortunately the same is true... more test... Snow Leopard, any Windows... but the results its the same: black display with brinking cursor "_"

    the only solution that I read... It´s the solution that OWC customer support tell me (the problem is that boot camp dont support external USB DVD-Rom devices...)

    My question is... Can that be the problem? It´s really funny...

    the customer support of OWC, suggests me, that remove OWC SSD and put superdrive in original location and then, install Windows with boot camp in factory HDD. He believe the problem is here

    Thx
  • 5. Re: Macbook Pro 2011 13-inch not loading Windows SO (never SOs...) ¿Why?
    Asatoran Level 4 Level 4 (2,535 points)
    JacksSsS wrote:
    Hi Asatoran

    I install OS Lion long time ago to test VoiceOver for visual disability community. not related to the problem

    I allways use OSX Snow Leopard 10.6.7. Lion only SO test


    Then why did you mention Lion in your post and don't have Snow Leopard listed in your profile? The fact that you're mentioning Lion on a public forum means you're credibility is not so good at the moment. So in order not to violate the Terms of Use of these of these forums and the non-disclosure agreement of Lion, all I can suggest is that you remove all the partitions from the boot drive, and probably all partitions from both drives, and repartition with the Snow Leopard disks. (IOW, do a clean reinstall to completely remove remnants of Lion.) Lion installations can't be downgraded back to Snow Leopard so it's possible you're encountering a issue from your Lion installation.

    And if you were a legitimate developer that had a legitimate copy of Lion for testing, you would have had access to the Lion discussion forums where you would be able to find out how to fix this without having to repartition.
  • 6. Re: Macbook Pro 2011 13-inch not loading Windows SO (never SOs...) ¿Why?
    GoldFran Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I see I´m so sorry... To lion --> developers forums. I don´t tell one word of Lion

    Well

    Actually MBP has:

    - Primary disk: only one partition in default bay (320HDD)
    -- Formated in OSX registered plus partition to storage

    - Secundary disk: SSD in Superdrive bay
    -- OSX Snow Leopard 10.6.7 OSX registered plus partition
    -- BOOTCAMP NTFS partition

    This is the MBP partition structured. I think that It´s Ok... but the problem continue...

    And ask again: is it possible that I need the internal superdrive? The external DVD isn´t compatible with Boot Camp??
  • 7. Re: Macbook Pro 2011 13-inch not loading Windows SO (never SOs...) ¿Why?
    Asatoran Level 4 Level 4 (2,535 points)
    JacksSsS wrote:
    I see I´m so sorry... To lion --> developers forums. I don´t tell one word of Lion

    Well
    Actually MBP has:
    - Primary disk: only one partition in default bay (320HDD)
    -- Formated in OSX registered plus partition to storage
    - Secundary disk: SSD in Superdrive bay
    -- OSX Snow Leopard 10.6.7 OSX registered plus partition
    -- BOOTCAMP NTFS partition
    This is the MBP partition structured. I think that It´s Ok... but the problem continue...


    You said:

    Install Windows 7 used boot camp wizard of OSX Lion --> nothing


    Because you used Lion's Boot Camp Assistant previously, it may be possible that it added something to the partitions that Snow Leopard can't deal with. "I think it's OK" assumption is just that, an assumption, and that often causes many hours of troubleshooting. Using Snow Leopard's Disk Utility would eliminate this assumption. However, the issue is more likely the following...

    And ask again: is it possible that I need the internal superdrive? The external DVD isn´t compatible with Boot Camp??


    It sounds like you don't have a properly bootable Windows installer...

    Install Windows 7 with USB Key ---> nothing
    Install Windows 7 with external USB DVD Drive --> nothing
    Install Windows 7 used boot camp wizard of OSX Lion --> nothing


    ...If Lion didn't mess up the partition, MBR, whatever. Confirm that your Windows installer DVD is bootable. Try booting it on another machine. (You will cancel the install before it erases the other machine.) If it boots, then you probably have some issue with the external DVD drive. I'm told that Windows installer resets the USB bus during setup/startup, but you should be able to install from a USB DVD drive, if the drive is in good working order.

    I'm assuming you made the installer on the USB key so you should also confirm it's bootable on another machine.

    If the USB key or DVD is bootable, then power off your Mac, then turn it on while holding down the Option key. This will allow you to choose what disk to boot from. (You of course choose the USB key or DVD.)
  • 8. Re: Macbook Pro 2011 13-inch not loading Windows SO (never SOs...) ¿Why?
    GoldFran Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Hi

    I think that has nothing to do. I installed Lion after doing all the above... was the last resort.

    first intalled boot camp wizard with snow leopard normally... then I try with Windows USB bootable key, then with external USB Superdrive and the last one with OSX Lion boot camp wizard...

    everything is very strange

    I tell you

    I have 2 Windows 7 (original factory) Coorp. (Bussines Windows to my job) 1.- Windows 7 x64 Professional & Windows 7 x86 Professional

    if boot this windows 7 (booth of then) in my iMac 27-inch 2010 Core i7, Windows install perfectly (with internal superdrive). In fact I have Windows 7 x64 Professional coorp in my iMac

    So DVDs is bootable... USB key, in my iMac don´t boot it...

    the USB external DVD drive (Samsung) is compatible, read, and write DVDs... In boot secuence of EFI Mac, show DVD icon but... back screen freeze..

    since the laptop has limited data... You recommended me, formated all partitions with disk utilities of OSX SLeopard DVD?

    Does it matter which partition is Windows to boot? first SATA HDD, second SATA SSD...

    In case of this solution It´s no good... What can I do? remove SSD and put Superdrive again to install Windows and them, put SSD and remove Superdrive?

    Puf....
  • 9. Re: Macbook Pro 2011 13-inch not loading Windows SO (never SOs...) ¿Why?
    Asatoran Level 4 Level 4 (2,535 points)
    JacksSsS wrote:
    Hi

    I think that has nothing to do. I installed Lion after doing all the above... was the last resort.


    Asumptions. The saying (at least in America) is "Don't assume because you make an [arse|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arse] of you and me." (a$$ume) Using Lion, which is still in testing, to troubleshoot was not a good idea since Lion is not stable yet.

    first intalled boot camp wizard with snow leopard normally... then I try with Windows USB bootable key, then with external USB Superdrive and the last one with OSX Lion boot camp wizard...

    everything is very strange

    I tell you


    You used an unstable OS to try to fix your modified Mac, trying to install Windows with non-factory hardware. (e.g.: non-Apple DVD drive.) You should not be surprised that you ran into issues. If you really are surprised, then IMHO you probably shouldn't be modifying computers on your own.

    I have 2 Windows 7 (original factory) Coorp. (Bussines Windows to my job) 1.- Windows 7 x64 Professional & Windows 7 x86 Professional

    if boot this windows 7 (booth of then) in my iMac 27-inch 2010 Core i7, Windows install perfectly (with internal superdrive). In fact I have Windows 7 x64 Professional coorp in my iMac

    So DVDs is bootable... USB key, in my iMac don´t boot it...


    So you didn't make the USB key correctly, showing why your assumptions at the beginning are causing you grief.

    the USB external DVD drive (Samsung) is compatible, read, and write DVDs... In boot secuence of EFI Mac, show DVD icon but... back screen freeze..


    Compatible with what? It can read and write, but have you tried booting with that drive on another machine? How about booting your OSX disks with that external drive instead of Windows? In the past, Macs were very picky about what devices it would boot from. Probably not the case here, but again, don't assume.

    since the laptop has limited data... You recommended me, formated all partitions with disk utilities of OSX SLeopard DVD?

    Does it matter which partition is Windows to boot? first SATA HDD, second SATA SSD...


    Shouldn't matter. However, Boot Camp Assistant was intended for "simple" installations with only one hard drive and one Windows partition. I can't say too much about Lion, but I will say that Lion adds an extra, hidden, partition. So if you didn't get rid of that partition, then that could be contributing to your problems.

    In case of this solution It´s no good... What can I do? remove SSD and put Superdrive again to install Windows and them, put SSD and remove Superdrive?


    That is obviously an option. It will definitely determine if your Windows disks will work with your model Mac. Otherwise as I said, you need to test booting your external drive with your OSX disks on this Mac.

    Puf....


    ? Pardon my ignorance, is that a local slang?
  • 10. Re: Macbook Pro 2011 13-inch not loading Windows SO (never SOs...) ¿Why?
    GoldFran Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Hi

    It certainly was not a good idea to use Lion, but that do not know... is an unstable version but...

    in my country there is a saying: "that problems are solved by the beginning"

    so the first thing I will do is this:

    1.- I´ll use the OSX Intall DVD original from my Macbook Pro into the external USB optical drive. and will check you install OSX SLeopard without problems

    2.- I´ll update it (OSX 10.6.7)

    3.- Run Boot Camp wizard with Windows OS with external USB DVD Drive

    4.- It´s not a problem all ok... if there is a problem tomorrow change SSD to original superdrive

    and rule out software problems

    keep you informed

    Righ?

    "puff..." yes, sorry, it´s expression that means breath or trouble
  • 11. Re: Macbook Pro 2011 13-inch not loading Windows SO (never SOs...) ¿Why?
    GoldFran Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Righ, I could not wait until tomorrow

    Now, I´m installing OSX Snow Leopard with external USB DVD drive and all ok

    I previusly used disk utilities and delete all partition... Now I´m installing OSX in SSD (secundary sata superdrive site)
  • 12. Re: Macbook Pro 2011 13-inch not loading Windows SO (never SOs...) ¿Why?
    GoldFran Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Hi

    I have done all the tests after formated all the partitions...

    1.- Primary SATA disk HDD 320Gb --> Storage
    2.- Secundary SATA disk SSD 128Gb --> OSX 10.6.7

    I created boot camp partition with wizard in SSD drive. Reboot and not recognize USB bootable Windows SO

    like you said, I put bootable Windows USB in other computer (Netbook ASUS) and USB key booting and instaling correctly. USB it´s ok

    Curiously in iMac 2010 and MBP 2011 this USB can´t boot...

    I created the USB key in two different ways but, can´t boot in Apple´s computer

    I think it may be that the MBP´s EFI is not ready to boot USB keys for boot camp partitions... I think only the MBA can USB Windows key in boot camp... is it possible?

    Afternoon I´ll open the MBP and change SSD --> Superdrive... It´s de last solution I think

    -- Only check USB key with Windows 7, no testing Windows XP USB Key yet --
  • 13. Re: Macbook Pro 2011 13-inch not loading Windows SO (never SOs...) ¿Why?
    Asatoran Level 4 Level 4 (2,535 points)
    You didn't mention if you're holding down the Option key when booting the Windows DVD. As I said, Option will allow you to choose which device to boot from.

    If that doesn't work, then you just may have incompatible USB devices. So temporarily stick back in the original Apple Superdrive and install Windows to the non-SSD drive. You don't need Boot Camp Assistant to install Windows. But you should use Snow Leopard's Disk Utility to partition the non-SSD drive, that way you don't have to repartition during the Windows setup.
  • 14. Re: Macbook Pro 2011 13-inch not loading Windows SO (never SOs...) ¿Why?
    GoldFran Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    finally I do it... Replace temporaly SSD to original superdrive and of course it´s Ok... Windows OS install correclty in original HDD but I has a problem...

    The OSX is install in SSD... when I reboot secondly Windows Installation MBP crash it... because OSX partiiton is in SSD...

    Conclussion: only with internal superdrive can intall Windows OS in Boot Camp... without USB key, external DVD-Rom...

    One cuestion... if I use superdrive with SATA to USB adapter, Would it be compatible? http://www.gizmos.es/2996/accesorios/conceptronic-csatai23u-adaptador-usb-para-u nidades-ide-y-sata/ (Spanish)

    It´s an adapter to conect HDDs or DVDs with SATA 2,5" 3,5" to USB 2.0...
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