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Pen input for taking handwritten notes on iPad

I'd like to see the iPad with a pen accessory and an proper note taking application.

Just to be clear, I'm not referring to a stylus for navigation purposes or for typing on the keyboard - i'm referring to a pen like device (call it a stylus if you want) so I can take hand written notes.

I have purchased a good stylus and a 3 popular note taking apps and they all just suck to be honest. They're not really a replacement for pen and paper, and they just take more effort.

I dont want hand writing recognition - thats a useless feature - i want to be able to write on my ipad draw diagrams, and later refer back to my hand written notes ... instead of using pen and paper.

There are many uses for a proper note taking pen device and application out there. For business consultants who go out to see clients, for lawyers taking notes, for students, even artists who want to draw on their ipad etc.

At the moment, using a stylus *****. The tips are way to thick. I understand why they are thick, because the iPad is calibrated to accept input from fingers. A proper pen like device will be much more desirable and easier to use.

Also, the problem with using the iPad as a note taking device is that as soon as your palm touches the screen it draws scribbles in areas you never intended. So you're constantly erasing these unwanted lines from the notes. Once agin I understand why this is happening, just pointing out the down side.

The note taking apps out there all have methods to address the palm resting on the ipad screen, but really they are pretty much useless.

So ideally, in a note taking app, the ipad should only be able to accept strokes from the pen device and not the hand. I know is not currently possible, but I think improvements to the ipad for this sort of thing will be great.

Maybe a bluetooth pen that sends the stroke signals back to the app could work. This way if you touch the screen it doesn't matter it wont draw unwanted lines all over place. Also, if its a bluetooth device you wouldn't need such a fat tip like the current styli out there, it could have a fine tip like a proper pen, which will make it much easier to write with.

There are pen devices out there that use cameras and special paper with dots on it to record what your writing, this sort of idea is what Im referring to. Then the signals will be sent to the iPad via bluetooth and the pen stokes will be seen on the screen.

I'm hoping that one day, the iPad will be a replacement for pen and paper. The possibilities are endless.

When I go out to see clients, I'd like to bring up their specific notepad and write notes, then when I go see my next client, I open a different notepad specific to that client. This way I can carry hundreds of different notepads with me all on my iPad. This will be great for students as well.

I'll be much better organised. I wont have one notepad like I currently do, which is shared for all clients I see.

There are many things you can do with an electronic note pad that you cant with pen and a notepad. You can move one page from one note pad to another, you can easily delete a page, duplicate a page, email a page, email a note pad, have the date and time stamp automatically on the page, record voice on the page etc.

This is why I look forward to one day seeing the iPad replace pen and paper.

Oh, and one for the Greenies ... it will save the trees!

iPad, iOS 4

Posted on Apr 12, 2011 7:37 PM

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Mar 18, 2012 12:50 PM in response to HiVoltage

I've developed an electronic ballpoint stylus for the iPad. The tip is a very smooth solid metal sphere of 3 mm diameter. It glides easily over the glass surface of the touchscreen. The small size of the tip makes it attractive for drawing or handwriting, as one can see the point of contact of the stylus with the screen. The large blunt tips of the styluses on the market hide the work being done.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gpN4EILwz8


I may receive some form of compensation, financial or otherwise, from my recommendation or link.


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Mar 29, 2012 10:49 AM in response to HiVoltage

I absolutely agree I have note taker HD and it is the best of the bunch, but it is still rubbish, there are two problems with the iPad that really stunt it's usefulness 1. lack of support for the pen and 2. lack of ability to freely coy text and pictures etc..


I used a tablet and MS OneNote, my HP tablet was a multitouch screen but also you could use it with a pen, it would favour pen input over your fingers/touch, so when you wrote notes they were really crisp and nice with no residue from your palms etc.. some of the notes app have got a wrist guard but they don't really work too well and stop you for freely drawing / writing.


if you are wondering why I don't just use my tablet, simple the pen bit is Great but Windows 7 is not a good OS for fingers! and battery life is rubbish, I would hibernate my tablet during long meetings or training only to be caught out by a sudden flurry of important information that I would miss waiting for it to boot up, or I would leav it on and it would go flat and I would site like a donkey making no notes.


I think the best option is note taker HD and or Booqpad, make your notes on paper and then take a photo (although don't toad it with the iPad camera because the quality as we no is appalling!)


a round up from my notes apps trials:


PhatPad - just awful dont bother

notes plus - please see above

pen ultimate - ok but too basic, you can manipulate photos/pictures very well or select text to move it

bamboo - good writer but very basic again, all you can do is write

Noteshelf - not bad but very restricted again

Notes Taker HD - quite flexible but very fiddley (the best of them all in my opinion if you can be bothered) it is useable but still a lot of hassle.


roll on windows 8! (the best of all worlds? or will MS mess it up?!)

Mar 29, 2012 11:03 AM in response to johnfromburton upon trent

when Steve said you shouldn't use a stylus at that time I agree (same as cursor keys being a no-no) but now things have moved on you should be able to use your fingers to surf / navigate and then if you want you should be able to draw or write with a pen! p.s the magnify tool is rubbish for editing mistakes, please put in cursor keys (it's the right thing to do) with cloud computing (I use Logmein and dial into my home pc) the iPad could really take over at home and at work! why do you need to carry a rubbish laptop aroundnwi you?


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Mar 30, 2012 8:39 PM in response to johnfromburton upon trent

Agree totally on the things moving on.

Apple at the moment has thier head in the sand, feeling invulnerable as no tablet comes close in popularity.

Speaking in mind with the iPad 3 perspective just upgrading from iPad2 (which my wife kept and is very happy with).

I love the screen... but that is about it... it is little bit heavier, the new LTE radio does not connect as quickly and does not perfectly jump from tower to tower when I'm driving with the signal getting lost, the GPS is also slower finding the sats comparing to the last model. Now I had the new Ipad for a while it is a bit of a disappointment on the scarecity of the innovation.

Apple is preserving thier revenue stream and unless they continue embracing the innovation they will get the same thing that happened to Rim, Nokia, Microsoft etc.

Active digitizer pen is what is missing on the iPad for it to be truly productive.

I have Lenovo x61 tablet which has been my main laptop/tablet computer for the last three and a half years... yes even today I still use it for taking notes at the meetings. It has the active digitizer and in combination with OneNote there is no equal.

Microsoft is coming out wht the Windows 8 and one of the versions is going to run on ARM, if that tablet is going to have active digitizer I will be there like a dirty shirt adopting it on the day the technology comes out.
The tablet will be most likely made by Nokia considering the ties these two have together.

I'm sure Steve was looking at this like a hawk, but that Apple is gone and the new Apple is yet to know. The idea of protecting revenue streams is actually quite solid and history is full of fortunes built on that principle.

It is just once it becomes that type of company we are not going to see the newness and many innovations will get shut down with Microsoft being a prime example in the past decade. It is only now that their revenue streams are being threatned they "all of a sudden" starting to innovate.

Apr 30, 2012 12:27 AM in response to iflowers

I've got the Cregle pen... it is rather disappointing... well it is actually a complete waste of money.

The only real solution would be to have a real active digitizer bulit in like in the Galaxy Note.

Apple sells so many iPads they would most likely ignore it until there is some kind of a real threat.

I also have a Lenovo X61 tablet that I have been using for over three years... and there is still nothing better than my X61 for pen input. Lenovo since than made two more upgrade models X200 and X220 by adding capcitive screens to the mix but the pen input still works the same way. If you are usine OneNote it is definetly the way to go.

Potentially Win8 will have the support on the ARM devices for active digitizers as well... that may prompt Apple to compete on this front, otherwise we all maybe SOL for another couple of years.


Microsoft actually made pen working on thier tablets very well, they just don't know how to sell it. Maybe Apple can work out a deal for a patent from Redmond.

Pen input for taking handwritten notes on iPad

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