Printing to PC Parallel printer

My Mac and PC can see each others main hard drive. Is there a way I can send print jobs through the PC to the PC's parallel printer? I used to be able to do this using PC Maclan on the PC but it never worked consistently.

G4 Quicksilver, Mac OS X (10.3.9)

Posted on Jan 2, 2006 9:38 AM

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Feb 13, 2006 10:15 PM in response to greg sahli

Tnx Greg, not finished implementing your suggestions. I wrote this earlier tonight prior to Apple Discussions' technical difficulties. So pardon the late response to your very welcome feedback!

I've rewired all the RJ45 cables per your suggestions.

However, next I fired up my Airport Admin Utility from one of my two Macs and found that its DISTRIBUTE IP ADDRESSES option in its pane was indeed checked, meaning that it SHOULD distribute IP addresses. So I UNchecked it - turned it off, watched everything on that entire panel get grayed-out, and verified (by re-entering the app) that that was the config running in the Airport Extreme.

Restarted both machines -- and found that neither could connect to the Internet!

So I opened Airport Admin Utility once more and returned the DHCP setting to its _status quo ante_ meaning that it's on again. I was really wondering whether my cable modem could really have been a router, since I always needed a router downstream of it...

So now that DHCP setting back the way it was, both machines on the LAN can see the Internet and each other... So I'm gonna leave 'em that way until tomorrow so that tonite's backup gets done.

Remember, the RJ45 wiring is now as you recommended, and everyone can see everyone and the Internet too... So that's the good news I guess...

Some questions about the rest of what you wrote --

How do I "check that the computers are all in the same subnet"? What app or panel do I open to determine that within each CPU? My mini reports via the System Preferences Network panel that it is using built-in Ethernet, 10.0.1.4 -- and the Ti-PbG4 reports 10.0.1.3 Is this OK? Did I use the right app to look?

I gather that the first 3 numbers in the IP addr must be the same for that to obtain. That that is a good thing, I also gather... So the IP addrs of these two Macs seem OK.

Nope, no Classic, so I guess I gots to use Terminal to twiddle the JetDirect's IP addr..

Where you say that I type in

TELNET [insert current IP address] what addr are you speaking of? Which piece of equipment?

I vaguely recall my TELNET days so with the help of HELP, I shouldn't have too TOO much trouble in altering settings. But don't I have to have some "starting addr" to get the attention of the JetDirect? Should I use the one that the JetDirect status page mentioned?

Once I have its attention, and assuming I correctly know the IP addrs of the two CPUs, I can see the criteria you recommend for setting the JetDirect's IP address. So I think I can hack that part... I'll try to set the JetDirect to 10.0.1.200 -- is this right, or did I look up the IP addrs of the two Macs incorrectly?

So once I know that addr (the one I've set), I guess I use that in the Printer Setup Utility. (Correct?) I choose HP JetDirect Protocol, and I leave the queuename blank.

What does it mean, what you said about "Queue name is required for LPD protocol, and RAW works for that. (you can't make one up)"

Does it make any diff which one of 4 "modes" the JetDirect can be set into? (PostScript is one of 'em)?

Should the LinkSys light configuration change anytime during any of this? Because it hasn't, so far. I realize that I am far from finishing your very helpful instructions, so perhaps that worry about the LEDs is premature.

Thanks for the coaching, Sensei... 🙂

PowerBook G4 Mac OS X (10.3.9)

Feb 14, 2006 6:46 AM in response to Dan Kalikow

Thanks for the coaching, Sensei..
Doi Tachimash'tay (You're welcome in Japanese)

Sounds like you've done all the right things so far. Yes, "in the same subnet" means the 10.0.1 part is the same.
The telnet command is run in the Terminal App, in the Applications/Utilities folder. Depending how deep the reset was, the current IP address for the JetDirect (that's what you telnet to) is either the last known or 0.0.0.0. Find out by pressing the Jetdirect test button again. The Jetdirect has a built-in server and the Help function is in there too. Your planned IP address for the JetDirect is correct.

Good luck.

Feb 14, 2006 7:51 PM in response to Dan Kalikow

I haven't done any next steps yet... but I'm wondering, does it make any diff which one of the 4 possible modes that the JetDirect is in? Shouldn't I set it into PostScript printer mode, and use the IP addr that it reports when initially addressing it via TELNET, and then change that addr to the proper one within the subnet... and then do another printer status output to ensure that its IP is as I had requested it?

... And what of the differences in the LinkSys lights for the line that goes to the JetDirect? Is that important, or can it be neglected?

Just wonderin', prior to (hopefully) continuing with this project tomorrow...

PowerBook G4 Mac OS X (10.3.9)

Feb 15, 2006 9:37 AM in response to greg sahli

WOrking from my wife Deb's Mini and logged in as me, I opened /Apps/Util/Terminal and then started a TELNET session. I attempted to open a connection to 192.0.0.192 which is the IP addr most recently reported by the printed output of the HP JetDirect EX Plus. FWIW, that same printed output said that

HOST NAME - NOT SPECIFIED
CONFIG BY - RARP/BOOTP
IP ADDRESS - 192.0.0.192
SUBNET MASK - NOT SPECIFIED
DEF. GATEWAY - 192.0.0.192
SYSLOG SERVER - NOT SPECIFIED


... and lots of other stuff, plus translations to Spanish, Italian, German and French... If you need other info from the printout, pls ask.

The JetDirect happened to be in PS mode, but I'm glad to hear that printer mode makes no nevermind. Good to know, thanks Greg. I was hoping to be able to reset its IP addr to 10.0.1.200 -- but I didn't get that far, since TELNET didn't seem to be able to find that addr.

And before you ask, yep, the RJ45-terminated Ethernet wire between JetDirect and the LinkSys switch was connected, as witness the green LED atop its port column. Transcript follows:

Deb-Mac-mini:~ DrDan$
Deb-Mac-mini:~ DrDan$ date
Wed Feb 15 12:26:52 EST 2006
Deb-Mac-mini:~ DrDan$ telnet 0.0.0.0
Trying 0.0.0.0...
telnet: connect to address 0.0.0.0: Connection refused
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host
Deb-Mac-mini:~ DrDan$ date
Wed Feb 15 12:27:11 EST 2006
Deb-Mac-mini:~ DrDan$ telnet 192.0.0.192
Trying 192.0.0.192...
telnet: connect to address 192.0.0.192: Operation timed out
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host
Deb-Mac-mini:~ DrDan$ date
Wed Feb 15 12:29:51 EST 2006
Deb-Mac-mini:~ DrDan$


Any ideas about what I might try next?

PowerBook G4 Mac OS X (10.3.9)

PowerBook G4 Mac OS X (10.3.9)

Feb 15, 2006 3:28 PM in response to greg sahli

OK Doctor, the terminal/telnet transcript follows:

Last login: Wed Feb 15 12:07:01 on ttyp1
Welcome to Darwin!
Deb-Mac-mini:~ DrDan$ date
Wed Feb 15 18:15:40 EST 2006
Deb-Mac-mini:~ DrDan$ ping 192.0.0.192
PING 192.0.0.192 (192.0.0.192): 56 data bytes
^C
--- 192.0.0.192 ping statistics ---
49 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss
Deb-Mac-mini:~ DrDan$ date
Wed Feb 15 18:16:44 EST 2006
Deb-Mac-mini:~ DrDan$ ping 192.0.0.192
PING 192.0.0.192 (192.0.0.192): 56 data bytes
^C
--- 192.0.0.192 ping statistics ---
11 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss
Deb-Mac-mini:~ DrDan$ ping 0.0.0.0
PING 0.0.0.0 (0.0.0.0): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.501 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.478 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.479 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.479 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=0.472 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=0.479 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=0.480 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=0.518 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=0.486 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=9 ttl=64 time=0.472 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=10 ttl=64 time=0.473 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=11 ttl=64 time=0.473 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=12 ttl=64 time=0.474 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=13 ttl=64 time=0.515 ms
^C
--- 0.0.0.0 ping statistics ---
14 packets transmitted, 14 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.472/0.484/0.518/0.015 ms
Deb-Mac-mini:~ DrDan$ date
Wed Feb 15 18:18:07 EST 2006
Deb-Mac-mini:~ DrDan$ ;power-cycled both switch and jetdirect at this point; both CPUs are able to contact the Internet...
-bash: syntax error near unexpected token `;'
Deb-Mac-mini:~ DrDan$ date
Wed Feb 15 18:21:00 EST 2006
Deb-Mac-mini:~ DrDan$ ping 0.0.0.0PING 0.0.0.0 (0.0.0.0): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.497 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.474 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.472 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.473 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=0.479 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=0.476 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=0.474 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=0.475 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=0.473 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=9 ttl=64 time=0.478 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=10 ttl=64 time=0.482 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=11 ttl=64 time=0.466 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=12 ttl=64 time=0.470 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=13 ttl=64 time=0.472 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=14 ttl=64 time=0.475 ms
^C
--- 0.0.0.0 ping statistics ---
15 packets transmitted, 15 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.466/0.476/0.497/0.007 ms
Deb-Mac-mini:~ DrDan$ ping 10.0.1.1
PING 10.0.1.1 (10.0.1.1): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.489 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.464 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.436 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.449 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=0.443 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=0.473 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=0.473 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=0.474 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=0.469 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=9 ttl=64 time=0.471 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=10 ttl=64 time=0.473 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=11 ttl=64 time=0.505 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=12 ttl=64 time=0.471 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=13 ttl=64 time=0.504 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=14 ttl=64 time=0.463 ms
^C
--- 10.0.1.1 ping statistics ---
15 packets transmitted, 15 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.436/0.470/0.505/0.019 ms
Deb-Mac-mini:~ DrDan$ date
Wed Feb 15 18:21:45 EST 2006
Deb-Mac-mini:~ DrDan$ ping 192.0.0.192PING 192.0.0.192 (192.0.0.192): 56 data bytes
^C
--- 192.0.0.192 ping statistics ---
18 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss
Deb-Mac-mini:~ DrDan$ telnet 0.0.0.0
Trying 0.0.0.0...
telnet: connect to address 0.0.0.0: Connection refused
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host
Deb-Mac-mini:~ DrDan$ telnet
telnet> open 0.0.0.0
Trying 0.0.0.0...
telnet: connect to address 0.0.0.0: Connection refused
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host
telnet> open 10.0.1.1
Trying 10.0.1.1...
telnet: connect to address 10.0.1.1: Connection refused
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host
telnet> ping 10.0.1.1
?Invalid command
telnet> quit
Deb-Mac-mini:~ DrDan$ ping 10.0.1.1
PING 10.0.1.1 (10.0.1.1): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.509 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.477 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.514 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.477 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=0.474 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=0.473 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=0.471 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=0.478 ms
^C
--- 10.0.1.1 ping statistics ---
8 packets transmitted, 8 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.471/0.484/0.514/0.016 ms
Deb-Mac-mini:~ DrDan$ telnet 10.0.1.1
Trying 10.0.1.1...
telnet: connect to address 10.0.1.1: Connection refused
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host
Deb-Mac-mini:~ DrDan$ telnet 0.0.0.0
Trying 0.0.0.0...
telnet: connect to address 0.0.0.0: Connection refused
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host
Deb-Mac-mini:~ DrDan$ telnet 192.0.0.192
Trying 192.0.0.192...
^C
Deb-Mac-mini:~ DrDan$ date
Wed Feb 15 18:24:50 EST 2006
Deb-Mac-mini:~ DrDan$


Hope this helps the remote diagnostician...

PowerBook G4 Mac OS X (10.3.9)

Feb 17, 2006 7:20 PM in response to greg sahli

I thought it might be a good idea to ask folks in the HP technical forum about whether or not this JetDirect EX Plus is a dead parrot or not.

So I posted

http://tinyurl.com/7sk9v (compresed URL)

I even gave you full credit, Greg Sahli, for bringing me along this far. 🙂

Let's see what happens. Thanks a lot for all the time you've spent on this!

PowerBook G4 Mac OS X (10.3.9)

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