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  • ds store Level 7 Level 7 (30,320 points)

    Rob A. wrote:

     

    So it appears the wave of touch screen interest is about crested or soon to be crested and level out.

     

    Thank FRIGGING GOD!, I loath touchscreen devices, although I can see the "halo effect" as it allows people to buy the low performance, "I need to use my fingers" idiot devices to finally upgrade to a real computer.

  • Rob A. Level 1 Level 1 (40 points)

    ds store wrote:

     

    Thank FRIGGING GOD!, I loath touchscreen devices, although I can see the "halo effect" as it allows people to buy the low performance, "I need to use my fingers" idiot devices to finally upgrade to a real computer.


    LOL, I'm sure they'll retain a small market place -- but from Best Buy, Fry's, and Apple Store's I've recently visited the crowds were NOT around iPads.  And I thought I could get rich selling iPad glass cleaner too ... those things get real dirty and finger smudges real fast -- it's definitely not a "everyone must have one" device.  Even mobile phones are still very clumsy and frustrating devices ... easy to see why so many people get killed every year by texting while driving.

     

    Touch screen fad will fade ... it's not exactly new technology, people just forgot about it and the problems around it.  Sorta like 3D movies ... we forgot about them, they came back better but still with issues and requirement to have glasses ... and now 3D movies are tanking in the box office.

  • Philly_Phan Level 6 Level 6 (12,810 points)

    Do you do stand-up comedy?

  • Chris CA Level 9 Level 9 (78,005 points)

    Rob A. wrote:

     

    This is absolutely 100% not correct.

    No, it is not.

    The Werewolf wrote;

    If Apple removed the 'no interpreter' rule, then Microsoft could have Silverlight on iOS in a second. They already have a version for MacOS - they've made versions since Silverlight 1. Since trying to make Silverlight work WITHOUT an interpreter or a local compiler is very difficult and would essentially cripple Silverlight to the point of being unusable, there really isn't a point in doing it.

    According to this statement, MS could do it if they really, really, really wanted to.

  • deggie Level 9 Level 9 (51,185 points)

    You do realize Windows 8 is chock-full of touch screen capabilities?

     

    Love your scientific method of determining that iPads are no longer popular, do you hang around in stores all the time?

     

    Avatar tanked? Harry Potter tanked? Really?

    3D is just like anything else, if it is not something people want to pay to see it will lose money whether it is in 3D, has Dolby Digital sound, whatever?

  • Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (44,750 points)

    Rob A. wrote:

     

    AppleFaner wrote:

     

    should be done by the end of this year. more info here

    Csound1, not trying to be condescending, I'm a software engineer, this is what I do for a living.  People seem to think SL is some huge framework that lives on their computer, it's not, it's just a plug-in and a small (6MB) one at that.  People confuse SL with .NET framework -- SL is missing HUGE chunks of functionality in regards to .NET framework - SqlClient (aka no database server direct access, everything has to be thru web services) is one such assembly.

    For someone who's not trying you seem to keep stumbling into it.

  • Rob A. Level 1 Level 1 (40 points)

    Chris CA wrote:

     

    Rob A. wrote:

     

    This is absolutely 100% not correct.

    No, it is not.

    The Werewolf wrote;

    If Apple removed the 'no interpreter' rule, then Microsoft could have Silverlight on iOS in a second. They already have a version for MacOS - they've made versions since Silverlight 1. Since trying to make Silverlight work WITHOUT an interpreter or a local compiler is very difficult and would essentially cripple Silverlight to the point of being unusable, there really isn't a point in doing it.

    According to this statement, MS could do it if they really, really, really wanted to.

     

    A browser is an interpreter (it interprets HTML) so I don't understand what that statement means, Apple seem very confused or they just aren't being clear with no interpreter.

     

    Yes Windows 8 is touch screen capable and your point?  I'm not a big fan of Windows 8, but it looks like Microsoft want to cover their bases just in case Touch screen computing gets more estabilished. Please share your scientific method that explains the falling off of iPad sales?  There are numerious sources indicating that sales have crested, but I like to confirm what I read with real world observations of which I've done ... but hey if you prefer to believe a single statistical source without confirmation, then so be it .... but that might lead you to some invalid conclusions.

     

    Avatar isn't recent, take a look at recent 3D movie sales numbers ... or better yet, go see the lack of crowds at 3D movies or visit the 3D BD isle at your local reseller.  3D didn't get mainstream penetration/acceptance ... again multiple sources for this including real world.  3D was a curiousity that pumped initial sales numbers higher than what the actual movie probably would have normally seen without being 3D.  Now the hype is over and people realize they can enjoy a movie just as much without wearing glasses for 2+ hours -- interested has faded.  The 3D without glasses technology never really got off the ground -- still a long way to go with that technology.

     

    Anyway, back to Silverlight and iOS.  I see most of you have avoided the tough questions, like Microsoft should be able to block QuickTime but don't (leave it up to the end user as they should) ... Apple's policy is a dead end road.  iOS just doesn't have the necessary market penetration to support this policy long term ... the blocking will have to tumble eventually ... it will happen about the time Apple realizes they aren't get the market share they wanted.  I'll give them a year, maybe two years at the most before they concede to at least providing a user option to allow Plug-ins.

     

    I think the irony here is that Apple are doing what Microsoft did ... role reversal, and that is expected and yet is funny, and goes to show how similar the companies really are.  Now lets see if the Feds step in an slap Apple on the wrist just like they did with Microsoft.

  • Philly_Phan Level 6 Level 6 (12,810 points)

    Rob A. wrote:

     

    Please share your scientific method that explains the falling off of iPad sales?

    Please share your scientific method for concluding that the iPad sales have fallen off.

     

     

    Rob A. wrote:

     

    Apple's policy is a dead end road.

    Then you'd be best advised not to purchase Apple products.

     

     

     

    Rob A. wrote:

     

    the blocking will have to tumble eventually ... it will happen about the time Apple realizes they aren't get the market share they wanted.

    You mean that 90% market share is insufficient?

     

     

     

    Rob A. wrote:

    Avatar isn't recent, take a look at recent 3D movie sales numbers ... or better yet, go see the lack of crowds at 3D movies or visit the 3D BD isle at your local reseller.  3D didn't get mainstream penetration/acceptance ... again multiple sources for this including real world.  3D was a curiousity that pumped initial sales numbers higher than what the actual movie probably would have normally seen without being 3D.  Now the hype is over and people realize they can enjoy a movie just as much without wearing glasses for 2+ hours -- interested has faded.  The 3D without glasses technology never really got off the ground -- still a long way to go with that technology.

    There is zero (zilch, nada, bupkis) relationship between 3D and the iPads.  3D never had significant sales while the iPad went off the charts and stayed there.

     

     

     

    I honestly don't understand your point at all.  This is a forum whereby users can assist other users with regard to the operation of Apple products.  How does stating your beliefs accomplish that objective?

  • Philly_Phan Level 6 Level 6 (12,810 points)

    ds store wrote:

     

    Thank FRIGGING GOD!, I loath touchscreen devices, although I can see the "halo effect" as it allows people to buy the low performance, "I need to use my fingers" idiot devices to finally upgrade to a real computer.

    Then you'd be exceptionally foolish to purchase an iPad.  Don't be concerned.  There is no law requiring that you buy one.

     

    By the way, why are you posting in an iPad user-to-user forum?

  • Chris CA Level 9 Level 9 (78,005 points)

    Please pay attention to th e posts and read what is written, not what you think is written.

    Rob A. wrote:

     

    A browser is an interpreter (it interprets HTML) so I don't understand what that statement means,

    You don't understand that...

    "trying to make Silverlight work WITHOUT an interpreter or a local compiler is very difficult and would essentially cripple Silverlight to the point of being unusable,"

    does not mean it is impossible? It simply means it is very difficult.

     

    The Werewolf said it was difficult, not impossible and I was responding to his post (which is why I quoted exactly what he wrote).

     

    Yes Windows 8 is touch screen capable and your point?

    About what? I never mentioned Windows 8 or touch screemn capability...

     

    You seem to be addressing me but deggie posted Windows 8/3D/Avatar info, not me.

  • johnpith Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Netflix streams video fine to my iPad. The NetFlix app takes care of that.

  • RMB16 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    YESYESYES

     

    It can be done...might want to test it with your specific issue before purchase if that is your only reason for getting an iPad.

     

    Has everyone here lost their minds?

     

    Let's get past the BS and get to the point. In 5 seconds I had it working here: http://www.abyty.com It is a bit slow there, but that was the first thing I tried. Next time google it yourself, lazy ***!

     

    Oh, Mr Software Developer. If you're so smart how come you don't know that the iPad is simply a computer. A user can pretty much do whatever they want on it that exists...or doesn't exist yet...process/resource allowing.

     

    Please everyone, argue with me on this. I'll pop right back to check on it, really, brb! Pc

  • Rob A. Level 1 Level 1 (40 points)

    RMB16,

     

    "Oh, Mr. Software Developer" -- are you twelve??

     

    SL4 OOB (Out-Of-Browser) does NOT work with you ABYTY junk.  SL5 does not work with it either.  What support that ABYTY has is VERY limited, so limited that it's only helpful on the simplest of SL enabled web sites.

     

    Shouldn't you be back in school or something?  Rather than posting incomplete information about SL working on iOS.

     

    Apple will never support OOB, are doing their best to not support SL, and they're backing HTML5.

     

    It's yet another "business" decision by Apple to try to handicap the competition, plain and simple.

  • Petoire Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Apple could flip a bit to allow the already existing Silverlight plug-in where as Microsoft would have to redevelop the entire Silverlight product and Apple could still just flip another bit to block integration with the derivative product.  The point is, Apple doesn't want third party code processing architectures on their devices and, until they do, there won't be any.  Volkswagon could go through the massive expense and effort to re-engineer the Jetta product to fit into the John Deere small tractor product line, a ridiculous proposition turning it into something it was never meant to be and something less than acceptable functionality wise, and John Deere still wouldn't incorporate it if they didn't want it.

     

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  • PogoPossum Level 4 Level 4 (2,505 points)

    Do you realize that this thread has been inactive for almost half a year?

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