powerbook G4 fails to boot with error message Machine Check (0) uncorrected -pc... panic (cpu caller 0x 000130504 "Uncorrected Machine check

powerbook G4 fails to boot with error message: Mahine Check (0) uncorrected -pc... panic (cpu caller Ox 000130504 "Uncorrected Machine check...


Problem is intermittent as it will boot sometimes.


Machine passed hardware check twice.


Is there a fix, or should the laptop be abandoned?

PowerBook, Mac OS X (10.5.8)

Posted on May 17, 2011 5:01 PM

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May 19, 2011 10:25 AM in response to old comm guy

Thanks for your comments on the powerbook G4 that will not boot. We reset the NVRAM as you suggested, and the machine booted three times in a row, but failed to boot on all subsequent trials. We looped the Apple hardware test and let it run overnight. In 61 loops no problems were found. After shutting down the test, I could not get the machine to boot, so have no information on what the System Profiler says about the hardware. Given that passing the hardware test is robust, I do not expect any enlightenment from the System Profile.

Do you have any other suggestions. Right now the problem looks like it is fatal, and not finding the cause is frustrating.

Stantonfromgoleta

May 19, 2011 3:41 PM in response to stantonfromgoleta

stantonfromgoleta wrote:


Further clues: The laptop refused to boot from the installation disk, so apparently the problem is not with a corrupted file in the operating system. My Guru colleague suggests that the problem might be in the boot BIOS. If this is socketed, it might be replaced.


The boot firmware is not socketed. If there were a firmware problem, you would be getting a sequence of tones on boot attempt letting you know there's a problem there.


This may also be due to a tanked backup battery. I could tell stories about that issue, well, I actually have reported some results of replacing that particular item. While I didn't have drastic startup problems, I have seen such occur in the desktop world with exhausted backup batteries. Any Powerbook G4 at this point is very likely to have a useless backup battery in it.


Here's the test: get the machine to boot (you may need to do a PRAM or NVRAM reset again to get that to work) and then close the lid until the white sleep LED comes on. With the AC adapter disconnected, remove the battery for 20 seconds. If during that time the machine turns off, the backup battery is definitely shot.

May 19, 2011 5:33 PM in response to stantonfromgoleta

stantonfromgoleta wrote:


Unfortunately, my Powerbook G4 does not have a backup battery. Does that mean that the most likely fault is the boot BIOS? In which case, the laptop is toast in spite of its working perfectly well when it boots up.


To my knowledge, all PB G4s have a backup battery. It is a 3.6 Volt Li-Ion rechargeable coin cell about the size of a silver dollar that is soldered to a small, oddly-shaped PWB that has circuitry to carefully control the charge/recharge of the battery.


In Titanium Powerbooks, it is located underneath the optical drive, usually, so it takes some disassembly of the unit to get to it.


In Aluminum Powerbooks, it it often found stuck to the top of the optical drive, still requiring some disassembly to get to it.


You can get more details from the iFixit PowerBook repair guides starting here.


As for the boot firmware, if there is a problem, which usually shows up as a checksum error at boot, you would get three or four beeps at startup and it would go no farther. I don't think that your problem is in boot firmware.

May 19, 2011 10:57 PM in response to romko23

romko23 wrote:


Pardon please, but does this little test work for the hi-res models of 15 and 17 inch DDR2 PB G4's? I seem to have a similar problem when in open firmware the date is correct, but the time is off.


In Open Firmware, is the time off by a whole lot, maybe the hours difference between your local time and Zulu time (GMT)? I just booted my TiBook into OF and the time was not exactly correct, as it showed about a 20 minute difference (if I read it right...I was looking for something close when I did it, which is what I got).


The battery out/in test, if it fails, says that the backup battery is weak or gone, in that it is supposed to be able to hold the computer in sleep mode for at least a minute or more while you change batteries. I can think of no other easy test that puts a finer point on it. In my case, with the original battery, as soon as I would take the battery out, the machine just died. With the fresh battery in place, it holds up easily long enough to swap batteries.


Since all of the G4 books use essentially the same battery that Panasonic made and then stopped making in 2005, yes, the test should be valid on any of the models, since they all supposedly support battery swap while sleeping.

May 20, 2011 10:40 AM in response to old comm guy

Our information on the insides of the powerbook G4 differs.

Apple article TA25911 clearly states there is NO backup battery in

"PowerBook G4 (12-inch) (all models)" and that instead there is a

capacitor to hold the clock for a short period. As long as the main

battery is in place, there is no need for backup.

Could the "no backup battery" apply only to the 12 inch model.?

Now I am wondering if the capacitor is flakey, but that does not

seem to be a likely cause of the no boot if the main battery is

in place. The hardware tests detect no problem, yet it will still

not boot.

May 20, 2011 11:33 AM in response to stantonfromgoleta

stantonfromgoleta wrote:


Apple article TA25911 clearly states there is NO backup battery in

"PowerBook G4 (12-inch) (all models)" and that instead there is a

capacitor to hold the clock for a short period. As long as the main

battery is in place, there is no need for backup.


Could the "no backup battery" apply only to the 12 inch model.?

Now I am wondering if the capacitor is flakey, but that does not

seem to be a likely cause of the no boot if the main battery is

in place. The hardware tests detect no problem, yet it will still

not boot.


I stand corrected. Victim of some incomplete information, it would seem. I just looked over shop manuals for the 12 inchers and there is no mention of a backup battery in the take apart instructions.


While the holdup cap could be a suspect, I would rate that at "extreme corner case" and think the problem would be elsewhere.

May 23, 2011 9:22 PM in response to old comm guy

I think we have found the problem, whose solution is worth remembering. My guru friend designed the free electron laser at UCSB and he upgrades and sees to its continued maintenance and operation. On the FEL there is a computer controller that has what he calls a PCI bus on which a number of nodules are distributed. The nodules perform various tasks associated with the laser operation. He has noticed that whenever any of the nodules on the PCI bus goes bad the computer will not boot. He remembered that the laptop also has a PCI bus on which are attached such things as bluetooth and the airport extreme card. The easiest thing to remove was the airport card. After removing this card, the laptop has booted every time I have tried it, although at this writing that has only been about 5 or 6 times. Apparently the airport card had stopped working correctly intermittently, although each time the laptop did boot, I could use the wireless with no problem. I have ordered a new airport extreme card that should be here in a few days.


Thanks for the interchange.

Stan Peale

May 23, 2011 9:43 PM in response to stantonfromgoleta

Good catch. The HW test probably doesn't depend on the Airport card to actually respond except when tested, which is usually just a test for presence, as I recall. The actual OS, however, might have some more serious interaction with the card, and come to think of it, I have seen a report or two of it causing problems over the past couple of years.


We normally think in terms of removing external peripherals, which doesn't help when an internal peripheral goes south.


Thanks for the update and let us know how the replacement card works out.

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