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  • solomare Level 1 (0 points)


    thanks for the suggestion, I've unchecked the IDLE box, but unfortunately the problem hasn't been solved. It still loses some sent messages.

    I asked my provider to look at this problem but I haven't got any reply yet.

    Kind regards from Italy.

  • judyp3 Level 1 (0 points)

    Hello Razzo - thanks a million for the work-around - first suggestion I have read on this problem that actually works and can be done by anyone!

  • Kenny Doughty Level 1 (25 points)

    I'm only adding that I had the same problem yesterday. I sent an email from iCloud and it's nver showed up in my sent folder. It was very slow in sending too. I don't know the receipent received it but from what I gather here - it DOES send but one doesn't have a record of it.


    My immediate reaction is to NOT use iCloud and go back to @gmail.

  • solomare Level 1 (0 points)

    My internet provider told me that IDLE - which they support - has nothing to do with this bug.

    They asked me to change some settings, which I did. But I also applied Razzo's suggestion. For the time being it's working, although I can still notice some delay in the sending procedure. In other woird, I have to wait for a couple of seconds (even more) before the email is sent.

    By the way I have Moutain Lion as OS.


  • Everic Level 1 (0 points)

    OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.5 Update


    • Fixes an issue that may prevent Mail from displaying messages


    Could it be they fixed it?

  • solomare Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks. Just installed. Let's see if it really fixes the bus.

  • guidodg Level 1 (0 points)

    nope , 10.8.5 does not fix it...just lost another sent email

  • philmarriott Level 1 (0 points)

    I am having the exact same problem, but it is limited to 1 specific recipient. All other e-mails I have sent are there under Sent items. I use a standard IMAP account from our ISP at work. At the moment I am running the GM of Mavericks (10.9).

    It seems very strange that only e-mails to one specific recipient would not be saved. Further, all e-mails I have sent to this recipient have vanished without trace. So I have 100% fail for this address, but 100% success on all other mails I have sent. What is going on???

  • John Grzeskowiak Level 1 (10 points)

    Hi Phil,


    Thanks for sharing this - does the failing email address happen to have any characters other than letters (abcd...) in it?  This would include the the full name and email address, e.g; John Appleseed <>


    Could there be anything non-typical about the messages that you send to this person; attachments, different signature, time of day that messages are sent to them, etc?

  • philmarriott Level 1 (0 points)

    Hi John,

    no, the e-mail address in question belongs to the Swedish government and apart from letters there is only a dash ( - ) in the address, which should not present any kind of problems. I have had no problems so far with other addresses that include dashes.


    The messages I have sent have only included plain text, and my standard plain text signature - no attachments or such. The lost messages have been sent both from my office and my home internet connection, and during office hours as well and evening/weekend. 

  • sam7770 Level 1 (0 points)

    If you go to that feedback page there is no option to give feedback on Mail!


    I'm also missing some Sent mails - I don't know yet if they were delivered.  I unticked IDLE and they are now being saved in the Sent folder, but not sure if disabling IDLE will cause other issues? 


    OSX 10.8.5  12F45, just installed the October 2013 s/w update.


    What are the implications of turning IDLE off?

  • John Grzeskowiak Level 1 (10 points)

    Thanks Phil - very helpful.


    Assuming the Swedish Gov't email address is a public one, would it be possible for you to share it so that I could test and see if the issue is reproducible?


    Sam7770: you should not experience any issues by disabling IDLE, rather, it may actually improve your ability to send, receive and move IMAP messages. 

  • goozeman Level 1 (0 points)

    I still have the same issue in OS X Mavericks.  My gmail IMAP always works flawlessly, but my school email address IMAP does not save all sent mail.


    I've been using thunderbird for the last couple of years without ever having the same problem (thought I don't like the program), but every once in a while I will check to see if the problem is fixed in Mail.  I've also been following this thread for over a year now waiting for a solution.  Apparently Apple doesn't care to fix the problem.

  • AndreUK Level 1 (0 points)

    I was just wondering, with the new update Apple have released ie "the Mail fix", which was more to do with Gmail issues but also apparantley addresses several mail fixes whether the problem of "sent mail not saving" has been resolved for most users ?  (am currently using Postbox which is pretty decent, but would go back to if this is fixed).

  • Everic Level 1 (0 points)

    I wouldnt expect that it got fixed because from apples point of view there is nothing that has to be fixed. Its only us, the stupid customers, that are unable to use this amazing, wonderful, breathtaking, pathbreaking software properly. I only wonder why I am able to work with postbox, thunderbird, opera mail without any issues. Maybee we would have to get better and try harder to get along with

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