After I upgrade to Lion OS will my applications still be there?

Most certainly the upgrade process would leave your data and applications. Applications provided by Apple would be upgraded to current versions.

Regards,

Captfred

note though, that if you have any applications that depend on rosetta to function, they will end being able to run with the upgrade to Lion, since Lion will not support rosetta.

I've just spent all morning trying to find out how much an upgrade to Lion will actually cost me.

I am now siting down, otherwise I would have fallen over. I have Adobe Creative Suite 1 which runs on Power PC. In other words Rosetta on MacOS 10.6.8 allows me to still run InDesign and Illustrator.

This is all because Rosetta isn't included in Lion.

To find out which apps won't work, follow the steps below:

Apple icon/More info.../Applications - sort by kind. The list will include Intel,Universal and PowerPC. Because of the absence of Rosetta any apps listed under PowerPC will not run.

It's going to cost me £740 to upgrade my Adobe products. So I won't be upgrading to Lion soon. Not until I can afford to upgrade.

wms44 wrote:

I've just spent all morning trying to find out how much an upgrade to Lion will actually cost me.

I am now siting down, otherwise I would have fallen over. I have Adobe Creative Suite 1 which runs on Power PC. In other words Rosetta on MacOS 10.6.8 allows me to still run InDesign and Illustrator.

This is all because Rosetta isn't included in Lion.

To find out which apps won't work, follow the steps below:

Apple icon/More info.../Applications - sort by kind. The list will include Intel,Universal and PowerPC. Because of the absence of Rosetta any apps listed under PowerPC will not run.

It's going to cost me £740 to upgrade my Adobe products. So I won't be upgrading to Lion soon. Not until I can afford to upgrade.

you may want to look into parallels desktop. it only costs $79.99 (which i think is less then 740 pounds) and i am not sure but i believe you may be able to install a lower version of mac os x, one that could support your power pc programs and other things. parallels allows you to run a different operating system in a window, while still running your current one. Heres the link: http://www.parallels.com/

Before buying any VM for this, one will have to wait and check to see if licensing terms have changed after Lion is released. Running Mac OS X Server in a VM was permissible but not client AFAIK. For instance, the free VM VirtualBox allows for server installs but not a client one.

the same is true for Vmware Fusion, indeed.

I intend to virtualize Snow Leopard Server after Lion comes out (and my server is upgraded), en use that to run the few rosetta things I have. ( warcraft III mostely, to be honest ).

@wms: I think your upgrade cost would be even steeper then what you expect. You can't upgrade CS1 to the current version AFAIK. Upgrades are only from the previous version to the current. So to get CS5, you would have to pay the full retail price, which easily goes for a couple of thousand quid for the broadest version. (sorry).

Thanks for all the pointers guys, especially with regards to parallels desktop and Vmware Fusion. I'll have a look.

With regards to the CS5.5 upgrade. I forgot to mention that I had previously upgraded to Photoshop CS4. I spoke with Adobe, who pointed me in the direction of CS 5.5 Design Standard upgrade.

However it still feels too expensive just to upgrade my OS. It's a toss up between upgrading AdobeCS or buying a Wacom cintiq. So I'll try the above suggestions out first.

Thanks again

OK, I had a quick look at Parallels Desktop and it seems to be a utility to run Windows on Mac. The versions of Adobe InDesign and Illustrator I have are for Mac.

Will Parallels Desktop or Vmware Fusion help me out?

If you're looking to run Mac applications in a virtual machine via Snow Leopard (or older Mac OS X) that will/may not run under Lion after it's released, the answer, for now appears to be no. AFAIK, Mac OS X clients are not supported in virtual machines or by Apple end user license. That may or may not change when Lion is released depending on whether Apple wants to give people that option (but I doubt it).

If you really want to upgrade to Lion and still use Rosetta based apps, as it stands now, it looks like you would have to either create a dual boot system on your Mac (1 partition for Lion, 1 for Snow Leopard or earlier) or use an external drive to house one OS and your internal for the other. Either way, you won't (initially) be able to run PPC apps with Lion.

All this begs the question... why do you want to move to Lion right away? Is it because it's new or are there features in it that you truly need or benefit you?

if you indeed use Adobe CS4, you should be able to run it on Lion, I haven't seen it in the Lion compatibility list yet, but I suspect it should run fine, being a universal binary.

as always, millage will vary, please test before taking into production, keep backups, and all the other disclaimers.

My upgrade to Lion all hinged on whether I could use some of the apps I rely on. I've upgraded Photoshop to CS4 which won't be a problem, however Adobe InDesign and Illustrator are a problem.

So my conclussion is to stick with Snow Leopard, until I find a solution, whether it's saving my pennies for an upgrade for InDesign and Illustrator or another option.

Thanks to you all for your input, much appreciated.

Are there known problems with Lion and InDesign CS4 and Illustrator CS4? I researched this yesterday before I upgraded to Lion and couldn't find anything other than the possible issue with Java Runtime. I installed Lion and updated to Java For Mac OS X 10.7. However, both InDesign and Illustrator crash when I attempt to print. As soon as I select "Print" the spinning rainbow ball appears for a short time, then the programs crash. Any ideas?

Thanks!

Abobe has a tech note regarding Lion and its products/possible issues here:

http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/905/cpsid_90508.html#products

Thanks, Patrick. I did read that report before I installed Lion, but it didn't address the issue I'm having with printing from InDesign CS4 and Illustrator CS4. I anyone else out there having this problem?