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is apple 661-4194 the only video card Xserve 2.0 will recognize?

i recently accquired a late 2006 Xserve 2.0 (dual Xeon, woodcrests i believe.) and would like to install another graphics card. I am wondering if i have any other options BESIDES the apple ati radeon x1300 xt (apple part# 661-4194.) For instance, can i install another ati radeon x1300, a third party card using the radeon x1300 xt chipset?


any and all help is appreciated. thanks for looking


-Alejandro

Xserve, Mac OS X (10.6.7)

Posted on Jun 21, 2011 12:30 AM

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Posted on Jun 21, 2011 4:14 AM

Hi Alejandro,


Welcome to the forum. What are you hoping to do with the Xserve. The ATI card is special card that plugs into the motherboard without taking up an expansion slot. Any other card you put in there will have to be a PCI-e card.


You'll also be restricted to cards that don't need an extra power source as the Xserve lacks the connector and cable, cards that are compatible with a 2006/2007 Mac Pro.. So something like the Nvida 7300GT which is an entry level video card. I'm sure there are other ATI's that will work.


All the best
Beatle

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Jul 26, 2012 1:56 AM in response to hydrostaticparadoxon

The difference is the 32bit/64bit efi found in the 2006 vs the 64bit/64bit found in the 2008 &2009. So that isn't a factor in the GT120 being used in the 2008 Xserve, it works on the 2008 MacPro so would work on the Xserve, when I find the time I'll test it out and post screenshots.


The X1300 is mentioned at the start of this thread as the OP was looking for an alternative to it for his 2006 xserve. Best to start your own threads in future if your issue is different to the OP's.


Good luck with your Xserve

Beatle

Jul 31, 2012 4:08 AM in response to hydrostaticparadoxon

Hi,


The GT120 does indeed work on the 2008 Xserve via DVI but not mini display port.

If the X1300 board is removed then the Xserve will boot with it as the primary display, for testing the GT120 was in Slot1..


Screenshots attached.


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User uploaded file


Hope that helps someone who wants to run a 2nd display or needs the extra power of the GT120.


Thanks
Beatle

Dec 30, 2012 6:32 AM in response to beatle20359

Just thought anyone searching this topic might find this useful: I purchased an Asus GTX 560 Ti meant for a PC, and with the aid of a $5 PCIe extension ribbon and an external power supply, have been enjoying my early 2008 Xserve's newfound snappiness! It scored 11292 on Geekbench, and is pretty **** fast in general! A few important points - the 10.7.5 update adds support for several newer video cards, I was having all sorts of trouble on 10.7.2 until I realised this. There is no Mac-specific EFI on the card so you don't get any video signal until after all the drivers have loaded, which will be a problem if you need to use open firmware or change your boot disk. OpenCL is not enabled by default, and I'm still working out how to change this. I believe all but the top-end cards from both manufacturers are now supported. netkas.org is a fantastic resource.

Jan 15, 2014 7:46 PM in response to jamall

curious if that would allow OS X Mavericks to install on the Xserve2,1 (2008). I heard that Apple dropped support on Xserve 2008 due to lack of robust video card (accelerated). I did manage to get Mavericks installed on mine but visiting sites in Safari and using iTunes was painful...lots of visual problems. Firefox seems to work fine.

Jan 16, 2014 9:53 AM in response to ziondotcom

Installation is a bit tricky - Xserve2,1 is no longer listed in System/Library/CoreServices/PlatformSupport.plist so using a supported Mac to create a fresh installation then manually adding the board ID - F42289C8 - is the easiest method. My '08 Xserve is currently sporting an externally mounted GTX 580 which powers two monitors and the built-in X1300 which runs a third. Mavericks runs very smoothly indeed. The X1300 only reports having 3 MB of VRAM and anything more than basic transparency creates visual artifacts, but it is fine for basic Finder tasks, text input and Terminal operations, and more importantly enables access to boot options as the GTX 580 drivers don't load until just before the login screen. I keep a copy of my modified PlatformSupport.plist on the desktop as Apple likes to replace my version with theirs at every availability opportunity.

Jan 16, 2014 10:04 AM in response to jamall

Also of note, it is "meant" to be possible to take put a RADEON 6770M from a 27" iMac into a 2009 xserve. I don't think there is anything similar on the 2006/2008 due to the video card mounting in a different way.


There is also now a GTX 680 mac edition card from EVGA but this would need an external enclosure due to it's size.


I put a GT120 from a MacPro into a clients Xserve 2008 so they could use it for Compressor with Automator which works well.


Beatle

Mar 15, 2014 5:52 PM in response to Rizlaalzir

Are you saying the machine doesn't boot and you see those video symptoms? Or is the machine up and running and then you see those symptoms?


Kind of sounds like a monitor cable or bad display? Try a different monitor and cable if you have one.



I ended up 86ing the mez video card (removed) and using the flashed ATI HD 2600.


Please let me know, also which system have you installed on the xServe.

Aug 6, 2014 8:42 AM in response to DJTEMPO

This flash refers to updating the firmware on a PC only card to support the Mac's boot architecture and OS. Usually it involves copying the firmware from either a Mac video card or a Mac with the same video architecture built in. You can google for flashing PC video cards for OSX, and you will see lots of info


I have recently decommissioned my xServe in favor of a MacPro 3,1 8core. I love the noise difference :~)


I also have discovered that I can run the MacPro with no video card at all and still remote in via screen sharing. FYI

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