Clam Down...Apple says missing features coming soon.

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⚠WHAT THE **** DOES IT HAVE TO DO WITH FINAL CUT????⚠

I, for one, do not care who NightNinjaPDX is what time his/her/it's bedtime is.

Start a new ******* thread and discuss it there.

love you too DJ Sing

sry about yer internship. lol

what internship

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exactly.

Sorry Apple, we can't use FCP X in our professional workflow. We don't need our money back, but the disappointment is huge. Apple survived bad years thanks to community of creative pros and this is Apple's "thank you"?

NightNinjaPDX wrote:

Doug you are right, but APple will do these updates next month after Lion's release.

Well, if FCPX magically will be updated solely on the presence of Lion OS, then they should have waited to release it... Why would they subject themselves to this backlash when, if what you say is true, that's why the features the pros miss are not able to be implemented?

Hey, if you're right then it'll be a great day, but I don't think it's gonna happen.

It also makes media management after a project is finished virtually impossible. How do you delete all the files pertaining to a particular project if they're all mixed together with the files of every other project? Ridiculous.

Does file>consolidate media help? I think you can either copy or move all the media into a single folder. Though I'm not sure about the move, or copy part of that. I just ran into it last nite trying to get al my media files in one place and I can't remember if I copied or moved 😟 But it's at least worth checking that part of it out.

Richard Harrington has a new article that basically goes through all the reasons us pros are angry and why we shouldn't just 'clam up' and be happy about it. This is how we make our living. So to all the people yelling and screaming at us pros, why don't you read this article first so you can actually understand where we are coming from.

And as a bonus OneRiver Media Blog has a great article on how us pros have lost confidence in apple, and gives the reasons why, especially since Apple keeps EOL'ing our pro apps!

Please give these a read before you start flaming us frustrated video professionals.

I have even started blogging about it, that is how much this has frustrated me!

Oh yes. It is really sad about abandoning the pros market... All these dedicated to the product people, companies, infrastructures, processes, everything was sent far far away overnight. I am really sorry for you guys..:(

However, I can say that these days (not just days after June 21?) are changing the meaning of the pros... It started happening with graphic industry long time ago and now it is upon video editing. Individual professionals (ones that earn money) are getting more and more out of large design and production houses. They make quality jobs at the substantially lower budgets compared to the well established players... Future market is there and so Apple is chasing after these people... FCPX is not enough for them right now, but I am pretty sure in one year it will change...

And let me just comment on that. After spending the 90s in art school as a design student, and being part of the community that was the ONLY people using macs at the time I started my professional career with skills that were actually sought after.

Ten years later my skills were seen on par with some kid who happened to own photoshop. I have always been an apple supporter, but there came a time when "photoshopping" became a verb, and non-artistic people looking to hire assumed to only had to have a passing knowledge of the program to be a designer.

I went into video to keep myself marketable, and now the same thing is happening.

You can say what it means to be a pro is changing, and maybe that's apple's line too-- but the comparison to design ends here. Design can be done in any number of ways, and the end product is sll the client is concerned for. With editing, it's not a "do it how you want and turn the end product in" industry. There is a pipeline and workflow that, while archaic at times, is a major infrastructure and backboen of the filmmaking community.

Sure, this new app could appeal to jr filmmakers, but Hollywood does not change it's methods over night. Just ask George Lucas. He's tried to change cinema repeatedly by making NLEs common place-- and that took 15 years. He wanted all cinemas to covert to pure digital for the Phantom Menace and we're still doing that transition. An industry as big as Hollywood cannot change overnight, and Apple is being really short-sighted if they think they can make that change happen instantly.

2+ years (probably more like 3 years) and they release FCP X "missing" a HUGE set of features and compatibility because???

It's not like Apple are "poor" and can't afford the development resources. Unless their earnings these past few years are complete fiction ... which they are not ... then why do this? What possible motivation, or lack there of, could make Steve Jobs and/or Randy decide to release FCP X in this current state?

Updates will come, yeah really, when and what? If that's the case, give us a timeline of what is coming and when it's coming.

If you're a wanna-be film editor, then go to town on iMovie. You wanna be serious about editing then FCS. So what the heck is FCP X?

What does Apple have against video production? They killed Shake 4 ... it was never brought back to life and Motion 5 still can't do what Shake 4 could do many many years ago. Steve just hate video production? Or is it some fear that video production software is a treat to Apple TV??

Apple had a huge opportunity to really come out with a product that could have become the clear choice for professionals and even budding enthusiasts, but instead, they tossed in the towel with future promises and claims.

I just don't get it?

Rob

http://www.apple.com/finalcutpro/faq/

Apple answers all questions and takes its point to the discussion of missing features.

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also noteworthy are the last lines of comments from this guy here, a former Apple-Shake developer :

http://digitalcomposting.wordpress.com/2011/06/28/x-vs-pro/

For some of the issues, Apple responds with timelines like "this summer" or "in the next few weeks" (but that's not necessarily to resolve the issue... merely to make something available so that 3rd parties can get started on the issue.)

For other issues such as multi-cam support, they say it will be supported in the "next major release" -- I read this to mean you wont be getting this anytime soon (not in a "point" release.)

It's not that I think FCPX is awful and without any merit, but they certainly did botch the roll-out.

It's a great update if you were used to using iMovie (I thought it was a bit awkward that David Pogue made comments about how much better it was than iMovie... it's not *supposed* to be the next version of iMove.. it's *supposed* to the be the next version of FCP.

Users expect the existing powerful features to be preserved and either optimized or improved upon.... not deleted with no work-arounds followed by a FAQ only posted AFTER the massive tongue-lashing they received from customers including demands for refunds with a "oh yeah... we'll add all that stuff back in... sometime."

This business about FCP7 being no longer supported (I'm not sure if that's true and/or what the source was) would certainly need to be reversed into something more palatable given the disastrous nature of the FCPX launch... really they need to provide assurance that FCP7 will continue to be supported at least until such time as FCPX gains feature-parity with FCP7. Apple should continue to sell FCP7 until that time as well. I see that they've pulled FCP7 from the store since the 'new' way to buy it is via the Mac OS "App Store" -- which only sells FCPX.

The Apple "App Store" _really_ needs a way to provide trial-mode software.