APPLE - GIVE US OUR MONEY BACK!!!!!

I agree with you. That was all I was trying to say. Apple are not stupid. They are innovative and put out great stuff. Yes sometimes they may seem like they don't care but they always prove us wrong. And everybody who says they have supported Apple for a lifetime should know this and either shut up and try to learn it and wait it out, or don't. I DO agree they should not kill FCP7 but I don't believe they are, i think they will either listen to the pros and bring back support, or everything will be fine in fcpx in the near future. People complaining about the workflow cannot possibly even be trying it. The organization capabilities for large projects are incredible. The speed is incredible. I just imported 87 HD clips into a new event and it took like a minute. How is that a bad thing? Because it is not called a ''bin" people cannot handle it. It is like Windows users who switch to Mac and complain that they cannot do anything when they already did it! They just did not know they could do something with one click instead of five!

I think you're wrong (and I also would like to correct you on your grammar, Apple IS a company, so the correct statement would be "Apple IS not stupid").

I've used FCPX, quite extensively and I still hate it. I'm an industry professional, meaning I use this every day in a professional broadcast environment. FCPX, or iMovie Pro, is slow, clunky, and is a HUGE step back. In terms of workflow, I was FREE to develop my own workflow in FCP 7. iMovie Pro forces everyone to work the same. I don't like this. I've refined my workflow over the last 10 years and guarantee I could edit faster and more efficiently than ANYONE using iMovie Pro. I know crap when I see it, and iMovie Pro is crap! Leave the pro products to the pros!

RIP FCP

I'm not sure that Apple Stores really expect to see many "high end" users walk through the door. I've noticed most customers have only a vague idea of what they want. The mostly part time college kids in my local store are smart and well intentioned and can usually find someone who has experience in advanced image/video work.

Apple Stores normally have examples of what they stock in the store on display. Ask the store manager. He/she is usually dressed differently.

I called Apple about this to see how people can get their money back for jumping the gun and downloading it before they waited to read reviews and they said that there is a 7 day window for you to do so. The woman I spoke too even refered to FCPX as "Final Cut Vista" because of how poorly i tis dooing with the customer base. Wow... 1-800-MY-APPLE they will take care of you.

erbeaudry wrote:

(and I also would like to correct you on your grammar, Apple IS a company, so the correct statement would be "Apple IS not stupid").

You know the level of someones argument when they start by pointing out the grammar! Very informative.... NOT

No, more an evaluation of your intelligence, therefore rendering your statement invalid. Meaning, I can't really take you seriously. Go share your useless keystrokes somewhere else.

RIP FCP

NightNinjaPDX wrote:

"Final Cut Vista"

Feel the love.

I like Final Cut Pro X it is fine to me

And what comes after Vista? 7

I got my e-mail response today that they will refund the full amount next week.

Final Cut Pro X is one big bag of hurt.

That being said, I can't wait to buy a new 16-core Mac Pro (when they come out), that has no Blu-Ray, no USB 3, no SATA 6 G/s, but does have Final Cut Pro X preinstalled on its pathetically small and underperforming stock hard drive. I can't wait !!!!!!!!

Save that email lol

NightNinjaPDX, are you still bothering to post? Is your teenage ego insatiable? I've said this once and here it is again:

One of the most enjoyable aspects of this discussion is that the people who think they're defending it the hardest are doing a better job of destroying it than any trolls from elsewhere. The fanboy talkups have gutted its credibility far quicker than any criticism its dinosaur former user base could have leveled, and far more surely than Avid users' disdain. You guys have given me more entertainment than I've had in years!

Not quite sure what your Hollywood Pro movie careers will look like though... streaming the next Avatar from your bedrooms? Money in that?

@hvxuser: I was about to post on the same subject. I have been reading a lot of posts here over the last few weeks and I am baffled by the amount of People who write "Apple are..."

Now this is TOTALLY apart from the arguments about FCpX (or FUCX, as i like to call it) and i am not rating anybody's intelligence on this point, But Apple - as a corporation - is a single entity. Therefore "Apple is"!

Ok. I feel better now. Back to the rants.

And finally (for now): I don't expect to walk into an Apple Store and have the sales staff teach me about editing. But it would sure be great to just see the program in front of me without dropping $300. A few minutes with the software, would that be so hard for the store to provide?

Paul Cuciti wrote:

@hvxuser: I was about to post on the same subject. I have been reading a lot of posts here over the last few weeks and I am baffled by the amount of People who write "Apple are..."

Amount of people? Number of people, surely.