APPLE - GIVE US OUR MONEY BACK!!!!!

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Listen everyone, it will be clearly obvious to all who have not been suckered into buying this product to wait and see what happenes. And while I agree, Apple may face some kind of lawsuit for falsly advertising something as "Pro" when the standard that they themselves have set with previous versions has not been met, as Professional editors we all have to 'be" professional and practice some reserve here. We should not be rushing out to buy a completly new program like this without doing what a professional should do....and thats research anything to the fullest before we commit. I must admit that when I saw the $299 price tag I thought "man I could get that without having to wait!" But then I thought, 'yeah but wait a minute...calm down...this is your business...do what you always do and research first!" And I did...and I didn't buy it!

There a lot of very cool features that I can definately wow my customers with in this new platform and it has some very cool new editing features that could surely make my life easier as an editor, but when Professional features are missing that means I would have to find a work-around that would kill any benefits.

I suggest for now, we all chill...Apple is surely not happy with all these responses and will surely make some serious revisions and include all the things we as Professional Editors have grown to love about the previous versions, and then if need be...in all seriousness, file a class action lawsuit against Apple.

Apple should have known better than to launch this before being tested by seasoned FCP experts and got it right the first time. I love my Apple products so I will give them the benefit of the doubt for now...

C'mon Apple...get this thing fixed!

quique - sorry to point you out specifically. i didnt mean for my reply to come off as a personal attack. after re-reading it, i can see how it can be taken as such.

But sadly, in the professional creative field, FCPX is not the answer to post-production workflow. The real kicker is that with the current FCPX, Apple has decisively ended their support for a professional post-production solution.

And when I say 'professional', I mean working in Television/Commercial Broadcast and Feature Films where image quality and control is paramount and involves a process beyond FCP -- where color correction and Visual FX compositing is handled on a Flame and audio in a ProTools studio. Not shooting music videos or how-to-vidoes in your home or office cubicle. The past decade, FCP has penetrated the professional post-production market and revolutionized our workflows.

Unfortunately, FCPX is not a professional tool. Even Apple states that the FCPX they released is not for professionals. It is a prosumer tool at best. What irks me is that Apple keeps marketing FCPX as a professional tool instead of announcing what it what it truly is: iMoviePro.

FCP -- RIP 2011

I am cool with the new interface and I figured I would have to stumbled a round for a little bit to figure out where stuff is. You can expect that when going from one software to another. But I really didn't expect to have to research an upgrade to a product I have used for the past 6 years. If I was making a switch to Premier or Avid, and it didn't have the features I need I could see your point.

But when I buy a brand new car and it's a new model from the one I bought 5 years ago, I still expect it to have a steering wheel, tires, brakes and a CD player. When the new models come out with the sunroof, and the chrome wheels they don't take away the steering wheel or the engine.

This is what Apple did to us. With no multiclip, they added a sunroof, but removed the engine. And now my car doesn't run.

you have an IQ deficiency!

caveat emptor 👿

But this is why it is so important for us to comment on Apple's discussion boards - so that there is evidence that their FCPX marketing and branding is off-target.

If enough of us raise a ruckus, then Apple will have to acknowledge our dissent - versus blindly accepting and trusting that their products will fit our workflows. The best and most innovative technologies have been the ones that fit into our (consumers) lives -- the worst technologies are the ones where we have to change our lives to fit the technology.

FCPX is the latter.

Let's keep 1-star rating it and spread the word that FCPX is not a professional solution - let's save our fellow creative professionals from making the same mistakes we did buy purchasing FCPX on false promises.

FCP -- RIP 2011

This software is a HUGE mistake calling itself Final Cut Pro. It has nothing to do with Final Cut Pro, it is iMovie plus at best. I too have reached out to Apple and got the same bounce around between the "app" store and the "on-line store". I was told I would get a reply within 24 hours and it is past that point now. All I want is my money back! Even just credit to use in itunes would be acceptable. I have been using FCP professionally since version 2 and cannot believe the backwards turn it has made with this X version.

I too edit in the professional broadcast world and cannot believe the backwards steps Apple has taken. For many, many years I have defended and promoted apple products. This release is the worst thing I have ever seen Apple do. EVER. We are not able to use it in our workflow and will therefore stay with FCP 7. Here's hoping Apple wakes up and treats the professional community with more respect. After all we spend the most money on Apple products.

Kenneth0923,

Those are really good arguments, did you come up with them yourself or you used a plug-in? I guess now we know you'll go as far as your software allows you to go, not an cheese transition further. Good thing your clients wont be reading this forum.

stevo_chang,

It's good to know that we can have a real conversation without being called names likeKenneth0923 did.

I respectfully disagree with your take on FCPX. I think it is utterly important to make Apple notice what shortcomings you find with the software and what you believe would make it work for you. These maybe in line with Apple's strategy or not, but there are ways to do it. I believe many have really overreacted to this and are not being helpful by the way they point out things.

Our FCP7 works just as good as it did when we bought it, and in the meantime we can help mold this to better suit our needs without having to go back to an application that as good as it is it had come to a dead end.

I believe it is a Pro application with a great future. Here is to the birth of FCPX and hoping it doesn't stop to get better every time.

so, let me get this straight.

you run your entire business with FCP.

you bought a new version of FCP, sight unseen and without complete certainty that it would satisfy the needs of your business?

to me, it jus tseems as though you didn't really do your job vetting the requirements of your business against the features of the software.

next time, keep your wallet in your pocket, get to an Apple Store and try it out (or wait for some reviews), and then make your purchasing decision. in this case, i don't think Apple is under any obligation to return your money.

Actually Apple must refund! Because Apple didn't offer the possibility to test and they positioned a product as a successor which means that all the functionality commonly used must be in that product. Otherwise you are misleading the customers; Which Apple just did!

I will get my $345 back trust me!

Apple has overhyped a product as the successor of FCP 7 (which is not even for sale anymore as today on their site) and it does only do about 20% of FCP7!

I would love to know what you do for a living. Whatever it is I'd be willing to bet your employer gives you proper tools to do it. Please tell me what line of work you are in.

HEY GUYS - I JUST FIGURED IT OUT!

I know WHY they are pushing a stripped down version FCPX through the Appstore -- its not to revolutionize editing... it's to MONETIZE FCP and its plug-ins!

I started another discussion - feel free to take a look:

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3134732?tstart=0