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Q: Final Cut Pro X Spinning Beachball

Hi folks outside of noticing all the missing features everyone's discussing, my first experience with Final Cut Pro X has also been plagued with slow, unresponsive hang-ups, usually accompanied by the spinning beach ball.  Most of the time the app recovers... takes about 30 seconds or so ... but other times the ball keeps spinning and will freeze the app, crash the app, or in rare circumstances freeze my whole workstation.

 

This is counter to the "no wait while rendering" I keep hearing about and is certainly not like what I saw from the NAB demo. So I have to wonder if it's something to do with my system, a brand-new Mac Pro - not a month old - with dual 2.93GHz 6-Core Xeons, 32MB RAM, and Nvidea Quadro 4000 graphics card.  All drivers are updated and I'm running on OSX 10.6.7.  Meanwhile all my other apps (CS5.5 Production Premium, Boris CC, Colorista II, Lightwave 10) are extremely stable and practically scream with speed.  None of these were open in the background when testing Final Cut, by the way.

 

I've researched the spinning ball even more by manually pausing the background renders.  When I do the app seems to free up and I can move around ... That is until I apply another effect that requires a render... then processing kicks back up, and I get more beach balls.

 

As for crashes, here are two quick observations: The app seems to consistently crash when I try to change the curve style of a clip’s opacity.  The other (more sinister) computer freeze has happened twice as I recall while simply accessing a pull-down menu.

 

Any thoughts?  I suspect it could be conflicting software or my Quadro graphics card?  Any help is appreciated.

 

- BC

Final Cut Pro X, Mac OS X (10.6.7), Mac Pro w/ Dual 2.93GHz 6-Core Xeon

Posted on Jun 22, 2011 11:59 AM

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  • by verstaerker,

    verstaerker verstaerker Mar 8, 2012 9:09 AM in response to DirkTheDog
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    Mar 8, 2012 9:09 AM in response to DirkTheDog

    intrestingly i don't get the spinning ball anymore ... i created a 1h project, with lot's of different footage, copundclips, edits, filters ... it keeps running smoothly ... probably my spotlight exclude from the FCP media folders was helpful  and the additional ram (now 8GB in my MBP)

  • by Sulis30,

    Sulis30 Sulis30 Mar 13, 2012 4:36 AM in response to churchillstudios
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    Mar 13, 2012 4:36 AM in response to churchillstudios

    For all those out there who think the solution is to go back to Snow Leopard - I have exactly the same issues on my 2008 Mac Pro (12Gb RAM, Radeon HD 5770, 2Tb HD), running... Snow Leopard.

     

    There doesn't seem to be any particular thing that sets the beachballs off - but once they start, you have to restart the Mac to get rid of them. Grr.

  • by verstaerker,

    verstaerker verstaerker Mar 13, 2012 4:42 AM in response to Sulis30
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    Mar 13, 2012 4:42 AM in response to Sulis30

    did you try typing

    purge

    into the commandline when the beachball appears?

  • by Sulis30,

    Sulis30 Sulis30 Mar 13, 2012 4:51 AM in response to verstaerker
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    Mar 13, 2012 4:51 AM in response to verstaerker

    Nope - the thought had never occurred to me before...

     

    However, I will give it a go - what is it supposed to do? (I'm presuming it purges a buffer or cache of some sort, but it looks as if it does it for the whole system, not just FCP X.)

  • by verstaerker,

    verstaerker verstaerker Mar 13, 2012 5:16 AM in response to Sulis30
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    Mar 13, 2012 5:16 AM in response to Sulis30

    it actually clears all systembuffers and sets the system basically back to the state like after a restart (just memorywise)

  • by Sulis30,

    Sulis30 Sulis30 Mar 13, 2012 5:20 AM in response to verstaerker
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    Mar 13, 2012 5:20 AM in response to verstaerker

    Neat - I can think of many other situations where this might come in handy. I'm surprised I hadn't heard of it before. Thanks.

  • by gerahdo,

    gerahdo gerahdo Mar 16, 2012 8:36 PM in response to Studio Engineer
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    Mar 16, 2012 8:36 PM in response to Studio Engineer

    Hi Sudio Engenier thanks for your posting .

    I run an 8 core MacPro, Lion ,FCPX 10.3 editing is impossible the beachball is spinning constantly .

    So I installed SL on a different partition and editing is like a charm .

    Yes I see the beach ball once in a while but only for seconds not for 15 minutes like before .

     

    Thanks a lot  ;-)

  • by Dirk_Williams,

    Dirk_Williams Dirk_Williams Mar 17, 2012 7:08 AM in response to churchillstudios
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    Mar 17, 2012 7:08 AM in response to churchillstudios
  • by royaldust,

    royaldust royaldust Mar 20, 2012 1:53 AM in response to churchillstudios
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    Mar 20, 2012 1:53 AM in response to churchillstudios

    Oh no...

     

    Please I don't wanna hear this.

     

    It kinda reminds me of an old nightmare... When Microsoft users had to delete their Vista os to go back to XP.

     

    Apple, pleeeease don't do this to us!

     

    Let's fix Lion! (we can do it!)

  • by Sofus Comer,

    Sofus Comer Sofus Comer Mar 21, 2012 12:49 AM in response to royaldust
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    Mar 21, 2012 12:49 AM in response to royaldust

    Its really bad that Apple are leaving us in the dark. I really am starting to dislike this company. Its simply not the way to do business and keep happy customers.

    Its about time they told us there plan with FCPX...

     

    My latest beachball experiance lasted more than 8 hours.

    As I imported 2891 jpgs of 1920x1080 72dpi apr 800kb per size.

    Apr 1 hour to pull them on to my timeline (PRO RES 422, 25frames/second 1080p)

    Apr 5 minutes to select all

    Apr 2 minutes to open the dialogue where i can change the duration (ctrl+D)

    Apr 1 hour to change the duration from 10 sec to 1 frame duration.

    Playback was terrible. Even after restarting.

    This process, is tough I know. 2891 jpgs all ready sized and everything is demanding, but come one. If I cant do this???

     

    So now I opened up Final Cut Pro 7.0.3

    All exact steps done in less than 15 minutes and playback on the timeline is smoooooth...

     

    Need I say more?

     

    MacbookPro Mid summer 2010, i7 core 2,6Ghz, 8GB ram, 7200 rpm disk and eSata Sonnet Tech Fusion F3 raid 0.

    OSX Lion 10.7.3, FCPX 10.0.3

  • by Baron Sekiya,

    Baron Sekiya Baron Sekiya Mar 21, 2012 4:34 AM in response to churchillstudios
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    Mar 21, 2012 4:34 AM in response to churchillstudios

    Argh!!! I'm getting the spinning beachball every single time I try to edit a FCPX project. I'm running the latest version of everything, OSX, FCPX, maxed my MacBook Pro memory at 8GB, don't have any big apps running at the same time. This is completely unacceptable. I should have just bit the bullet and gone to Premier

  • by verstaerker,

    verstaerker verstaerker Mar 21, 2012 5:13 AM in response to Baron Sekiya
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    Mar 21, 2012 5:13 AM in response to Baron Sekiya

    you ever worked with premiere? i promise this has also some problems

     

    check that document here

    http://support.apple.com/kb/TS3893

     

    especially steps 7&9 are worth trying

    additionally i'd try excluding the the fcp project and event folders from spotlight and restart machine

     

    also i'd write feedback to apple  about your problems - if they know about existing problems they can do something about it

  • by aaronweinzierl,

    aaronweinzierl aaronweinzierl Mar 21, 2012 6:47 AM in response to verstaerker
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    Mar 21, 2012 6:47 AM in response to verstaerker

    thanks for sharing this - all the first ones are obvious and 9 I already have done a few times. but number 7 - hiding all the events and projects worked for me so far. I didn't go thru each one to test since I have a bunch. so instead I just hid all projects and all events and started a new one. It was a simple edit - simple or complex edits in this don't seem to be the problem - you can do something very simple and lock it up. so anyways everything worked smoothly and zero lag, zero beachball, quick scrubbing, quick opening of different browsers. I even applied a couple audio filters like limiter and it didn't screw up the waveform like it usually does.

     

    so at this point I'd like to surmise that FCPX is having a hard time keeping events / projects from corrupting. I've never force rebooted during use or anything. so who knows what is causing things to go bad in the first place but that must be the issue.

     

    honestly I'd be happy to hide everything I'm not currently working on and simply move these folders around as needed if this fixes the problem for now. I've thought about switching to Premier but I really don't love Adobe and I really like FCPX when it works right - still holding out I guess for Apple to fix it. I do however think they owe $100 or more gift cards to all the early adopters for putting up with this for so long - totally unacceptable to pay $300 for a program that doesn't work properly - as if we are guinea pigs paying to be tested on (all the while trying to keep our professional work going

  • by verstaerker,

    verstaerker verstaerker Mar 21, 2012 7:11 AM in response to aaronweinzierl
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    Mar 21, 2012 7:11 AM in response to aaronweinzierl

    actually the price for such a software is pretty low - but i wish apple would be a bit more communicative/responsive regarding development and bug-fixing

     

    what i keep doing is writing feedback to apple - i believe they are reading it, but unfortunately they neve respond

  • by verstaerker,

    verstaerker verstaerker Mar 21, 2012 8:28 AM in response to verstaerker
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    Mar 21, 2012 8:28 AM in response to verstaerker

    additionally i'd like to recommend a little tool that shows you your free memory - you'll be surprised how much memory is used for programs you might not need during editing  for instance a browser

    http://www.ragingmenace.com/software/menumeters/

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