Final Cut Pro X saves projects unreliable

I don't have any issues with speed - in fact, I find it blindingly fast compared to the previous version. If it weren't faster, I'd probably go back until they solve the auto-save, but the speed makes up for it.

I figured out a work around to keep things saved, so now it makes perfect sense. The speed difference to me is so massive that losing an hours worth of work isn't the end of the world.

It appears a good indication of saving stoping is that the undo command stops working and is continually greyed out. I check for this every so often, much like I would hit command save in previous programs.

At this point I go back and duplicate the project I'm working on. This forces a save. I don't have it duplicate the media etc, I just go with the simplist option, duplicating jthe render files.

At this point you can continue to work, or you can quit and relaunch the program and get your undo command back.

Yes, it's more labourious than hitting command-s. I wish they would just put it back in. But, the speed increases, at least for me, are so big, that having to duplicate my project one an hour make up for it. It's just modifying your old behaviour to hit command-s to hitting undo and hearing it refuse to do it.

I agree, it's total crap that we have to go through this, but for me, the massive speed increase is actually worth it. It'd be nicer if they fixed it through.

Hi QS,

Are you saying that when you notice the 'undo' is greyed out and you have lost autosave that duplicating the project saves it at the point you are at then without the losses you would have by quitting and restarting?

If so, that would make me feel a lot more comfortable doing Pro work on it.

Robert,

Yep - you got it.

And so far so good. However, I've only been testing it for a day and a bit, but it was a full day of editing. I'm editing the rest of the week, big project, so that will give me plenty of opportunity to prove it, or disprove it.

I'll keep you apprised.

Thanks, I will try it, apple told me to go to the library and delete Plsit for finalcut, that did help a little, haven't lost any great amounts, since then, just little bits. I keep waiting for it to stop rendering before turning off, that seems to hlep, force quite when it hangs, definitly creates problems.

My main problem is with adding titles, often they ar enot there when I come back and they are often really hard to enter, the machine seems to want to do lots of rendering before accepting a new title.

For anyone paying attention - I've been working on a big project for the last week, and I've not been having the failure to save issues anymore. Anytime I saw the undo button grey out, I waited until all rendering was complete, then duplicated the project, which seemed to force a save. And since the new update, I've not run into any real issues.

When it comes to titles however, you really have to make sure it stops rendering before you quit. And while everyting else is super snappy, subs, whether lower thirds, or bumpers, in/outs, seem to really need a lot of rendering power. I've found it's good to leave putting in your tites close to the end of your project, then doing a bunch of them all at once, (which leads to the system really grinding), then walking away from your computer and just letting it render until it catches up.

That's been my experience so far.

Hi,

I just wanted to export one song from a concert I finished (multicam - effects - colouring- all !).

So I cut out beginning and ending, exported. Just as I wanted to undo this two steps, computer crashed for the first time. 24 hours of work dead - at least!

Isn't there a way to be abl to go back ? The stupid backup file is from the point where I relaunched the computer&fcpx. So all the material already gone there...

I'm really really frustrated !

Need help immediately - please help !

Hi Boris,

Do you not have a backups folder inside your project folder in the Final Cut Projects folder (default location is username/Movies) rather than the currentversion file? Alternatively you can do a search in spotlight for the project name and see if there's a temp back up file - that's helped me before.

Your work is doomed. The shady way of how FCPX stores events, projects, and all the meta-data is just...

Since I do not have the funds to buy other software, I ended up with creating a new user account on my Mac where I did all the work all over again. There is not a single source that says that this is the answer, but hey, I still produce.

You must understand that it might not be a problem with FCPX, but with the file system it relies on. Nevertheless, it is quite shamefull that Apple thinks so lightely of this massive flaw in one of their products.

My advice (as given by other posters) is to create a user account for editing only. It's horrible, it's pathetic, but do it...

QS,

One thing I don't think you mentioned is, after you've duplicate the project, do you then start working on the new duplicated project, and delete the original one? Or just go back and continue to work on the original one?

This all sounds crazy but if it works...

Thanks,

Dirk,

When the graying out was occurring (which I haven't had since the patches), I would quit FCPX entirely, relaunch it, then work from the original.

I still continue to make backups every so often, and usually, I place them on a separate disk, but I continue to work on the original.

And then every so often I'll purge the old duplicates.

I've found the time savings from the faster editing to more than make up for the foibles of FCPX - at least since the patches came out. I also ended up trading in my older MacBook and iMac for a current generation iMac and dropped a total of 12GB of RAM into it. For the most part, it's freakin' quick, and it showed up myver 1,1 8-core tower.

But isnt there a way to recover the project, al least partially?

See, I'm an editor for an online interview program and i had not experienced any issues so far until my last project where the program crashed anytime I used an accent on texts (in spanish we use them quite frequently), and led me to a force close but hadn't had any loss.

But for my last project (technically the most challenging one so far) i have been working for several hours, about 15. And yes I had noticed the Undo option was greyed out, but somehow managed to fix things along the way without using it and didn't take it as a serious issue. And when I was just about to finish, I just had to insert a couple of credits and done, I accidentally insert an accent on one of the credits, and FCPX crashes as usual. I haven't freaked out because I knew the project would be autosaved but when I re-open it the whole thing is almost completely gone! Just about 10% of the whole project has been saved.

Is there any way to recover it????

I have a deadline and if i have to recreate the whole video it will take me till tomorrow morning.

Can anybody help me?

I just lost 4 hours of work having to fource close. when I re load the project file, or the back-up, it places me where I was 4 hours ago in editing.... I lost a TON of work!!

I need the ability to save back, at that point at least I can hold my self responsiblle for losing all this work....

Big let down from FCX

Forget about auto save, How can i retrieve the project if I want to open the project i worked few months ago, if I don't save with a name. Next problem no tools menu, We can not memorize the short cut if we are occasional user. You tube share not letting to upload more than 15 min, They don't know You tube allows to upload more than 15 min with payment. Final cut pro is total screw up.

I find the fact that NO ONE FROM APPLE seems to be paying attention to this problem even more worrying then the problem itself. If at least they aknowledged it and told us they were working on a fix I'd feel a lot better. We are talking about a program that gives no way for users to save their work when they want to ! and an auto-save that doesn't seem to work! How has this not been answered by apple engineers RIGHT HERE in the support forums ?

very scary...