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Can I get Snow's Spaces back? Among others...

Hello fellow Mac users,

I understand Address Book and iCal look childish now. I think this may not be as constructive as Apple's developers may be thinking.
Is there a way to revert to a cleaner UI?
(Is that actually leather in iCal's new UI? I don't want animals to be killed for my apps.)

But most important is Mission Control.


Mission Control brings together Exposé, Dashboard, Spaces, and full-screen apps says Apple.

Why would I want to bring Exposé, Dashboard, Spaces, and full-screen apps together?

Why would I want to see Dashboard (or anything else) when I want to quickly change to another Space?

I use Spaces all the time - I use a click on my mouse's scroll wheel for that. that's one click on the scroll wheel to display all Spaces and one ordinary click to make my choice. Of what I see now I think Mission Control is not going to be that straight forward.

Can I have Spaces in Lion the Snow Leopard way? The same question for Dashboard and Exposé.

If it's not an option in Lion, can it be achieved through the terminal some way?

Or can I simply copy these apps from Snow Leopard to Lion and enjoy working the way I'm used to?

Is there someone with answers to my questions?


MBP, Mm, Mac OS X (10.6.8)

Posted on Jul 20, 2011 10:45 AM

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Jul 22, 2011 5:45 AM in response to RobBT

There are more discussions going on about Mission Control. Striking is that people positive about MC hardly know of how Spaces was used in Snow Leopard.


I myself do not use Exposé a lot - of course, no cluttered desktop due to Spaces. But it looks like Mission Control also impaired its Exposé side.

Here klyuchko points out serious Exposé troubles in MC: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3191448?answerId=15690337022#15690337022


I think I won't upgrade any time soon, I rather have Snow's Spaces than than any of Lion's improvements. (Since AirDrop is not available for my early 2008 MBP and late 2009 Mm I can say that without the slightest trace doubt.)


Still, I would like to understand Apple's move to abandon three well designed and well functioning applications (Dashboard, Exposé and Spaces) and create Mission Control.


I used the link in jamestsnell's post and submitted my request to Apple.

Jul 22, 2011 12:38 PM in response to RobBT

Back to Snow Leopard from Lion install method



Read and print out these instructions, your computer is going to be offline and you wil be cutoff from help until your machine is restored.


Clear the Desktop, Downloads and Trash of anything you wish to keep by placing their files in the respective Documents, Music, Pictures, Movie folders.


If you have a TimeMachine drive, update it and disconnect for the duration of this restore time. It will be your second backup system and will have to be wiped and setup again after successfully going back to Snow Leopard if it was connected to the OS X 10.7 boot drive. If it wasn't, then leave it disconnected without updating to Lion. (note: I'm not a TimeMachine user, so I don't know how to restore 10.6 from this medium)


Backup ALL your Users folders (Documents, Pictures, Movies, Music etc) manually (drag and drop methods) to a (not TimeMachine) external powered drive (HFS+ journaled formatted in Disk Utility) and disconnect, your going to be wiping the entire disk of ALL DATA. (warning, everything will be gone and not recovered, OS, programs, files, Windows etc all gone.)



Here we go!


Hold c and boot off the 10.6 installer disk that comes with your computer and second screen in just STOP.


Look at the Utilities Menu for Disk Utility.


On the left is the name of your hard drive maker, click it and Erase (format HFS+ Journaled), give it the same name as before, and click Erase...


This should wipe the drive of ALL partitions (GUID, OS X and 10.7 Recovery, Windows if present)


When it's done, quit and install OS X 10.6. Then install all your programs from fresh sources and validate/update.



When you setup a first account, use the same user name as before, this way you can simply drag and drop the content of your previous Users folders from the external drive right back into the new Users folders and everything should work peachy. Links in iTunes to music, playlists and iPhoto links especially.


Update OS X to 10.6.8 using the Combo Update for best results.


http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1399


(Note: If your original machine had 10.5 and you want the free iLife that comes with the disks with the computer, then you'll have to install 10.5 first using the same c boot/erase/format methods as above, then update to 10.6 via the disk, then Combo Update 10.6.8)



Final step optional but highly receommended.


A lot of people use a Carbon Copy Clone of their boot drive to a HFS+Journaled external drive as a "hold the option key" bootable backup in case something goes wrong with their boot drive or need to restore to a previous OS X version.. (in addition to TimeMachine drive for more immediate backups.)


It's not advised to have a Bootable Clone and a TimeMachine partition on the same external drive, as two drives gives hardware protection in case one fails.

Jul 23, 2011 6:54 AM in response to ds store

I really, really cannot get used to Mission Control. It totally lacks any overview and navigation ease.


Mission Control was designed to integrate the dashboard, full screen apps, Exposé and Spaces. Well, the dashboard is useless and full screen apps as well. I do not see any reason why the spaces grid cannot be re-implemented in Lion. I hope Apple comes to the conclusion that they've made a mistake; otherwise 3rd parties probably will come up with a solution.


In the meantime, please join this Facebook page:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Dear-Mr-Jobs-Could-I-please-have-the-Snow-Leopard- Spaces-back-in-Lion/167233123348526?sk=photos

Jul 23, 2011 8:19 AM in response to pmhask

pmhask wrote:


I don't mind the way the Spaces have been incorporated in Lion. However, ctl-n for me only works thru ctl-4. That is, if I'm in Space 1 and want to go to Space 5, ctl-5 rings a bell and doesn't move me to Space 5. Is there a setting somewhere that I'm missing? Thanks.

Do you actually have a Desktop named Desktop 5? Full Screen Apps are not actually desktops, but they do take up a space.


Also, when I ctrl+# that is out of range, I don't get a warning sound. So perhaps there is something interfering with the Ctrl-# function for 5 on your system. I.e. Ctrl-5 on your system is set to do something else, that is failing.

Jul 23, 2011 8:42 AM in response to RobBT

Only now I see that Apple edited my original post, without telling you, or me.

Removed is the intro where I referred to
Apple completely removing my earlier post because they thought discussing Mission Control was "non-constructive". I disagreed.


I wonder what else we don't get to see on these pages. Or how long this message will be visible for that matter.

Jul 23, 2011 8:51 AM in response to RobBT

I had different apps set for different spaces. Grouped like functions into one (e.g. iCal and Mail). Dragged and dropped between spaces. I used the arrow keys and ctrl-# to move arround. Had to invoke Exposé + spaces to see what was going on all over. It was clunky.

With MC, I just swipe. It's there. Way simpler and more intuitive.

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