Can I get Snow's Spaces back? Among others...

I agree that I too despise the downgrade spaces has experienced. I was using a hot corner to go to the Spaces as a grid. I love being able to drag windows very quickly from space to space. The grid also creates a much more organized workspace when there are many many many application windows open. Getting rid of that feature is really hindering my productivity. Being linear and having small spaces windows makes is so much harder to use the spacesin quickly and you cant drag windows from space to space unless you are dragging from the active space. I like some of the new features like scrolling and some new guestures, but spaces was my absolute favorite thing about macs and now its gone.

Yeah, I just upgraded my two Apple machines to 10.7 and I use spaces like a nut (16 of them). I'm.. err.. Mortified by this new arrangement.. Both my Macs are at least 2009 vintage, so I don't have the funky track pad everyone's keen about. I hope Apple will consider adding a means for crazies like me that demand their spaces be arranged in rows and columns.. For now, it's one thing pushing me back towards my operating environment of general preference (hint, it heavily rhymes with "Ubuntu").

So you can switch back and forth through the "spaces/desktops" using control and the arrow keys. However the linear only option truly *****. I would much rather the ability to switch using all four arrow keys. As well as using numbers to indicate the space/desktop you are on. Please bring back this functionality.

I don't think casual users will have a problem but I believe most seasond users that took advantage of expose and spaces and their advanced features will feel handycapped in mission control. I'm hoping they fix up mission control or I can get expose and spaces back 3rd party.

I suggest each of you submit a feature request asking for this back.

I think how they could implement it is give power users a kind of 'space jump' or 'space warp' feature -- when you press up or down it jumps forward some customizable number of spaces.. I think if they did this, power users could deal better and they could maintain mission control's UI.

If you have other suggestions that provide them with solutions that seem to fit with where they're taking OSX, then you should provide them. They're trying to inspire positive change, so bashing them, won't actually get us 'good' spaces back.. 😉

You can submit feature requests here.

Especially since not everyone believes Spaces was better than Mission Control. Spaces was kludgy, ineffecient, and frankly, hijacked some really good keyboard shortcuts. I was excited about it when it was plugged in the keynote, but upon actual implementation found myself hating it. It didn't do anything for me that I couldn't already accomplish more quickly with exposé alone. Mission control, however, I'm loving. The simplification down to a single linear path of desktops, plus being able to quickly enter mission control and manually click on a specific desktop means less hunting for the right place for the right app. This, in addition to requiring NO implementation on behalf of third-party developers makes Mission Control superior to Spaces in my opinion. Those of you who tried to use spaces with Office Mac 2008 know what I'm talking about.

Not that this has much of anything to do with the topic of conversation, but I'm of the belief that Apple makes fairly informed decsions regarding how to change their OS features, and that most people are going to like Mission Control, rather than miss Spaces. You're more than welcome to submit a feature request, though it's unlikely Apple will revert Mission Control to Spaces.

Also, you can disable the Dashboard desktop in the Mission Control Prefs.

Couldn't agree more. I was a SL Spaces nerd. I had my top left hot corner set to "All Windows" (which Lion killed by the way) and the upper right hot corner was set to "Spaces". All I had to do was move the mouse and my six spaces came up, each space had apps assigned to that space via system preferences and if any space was too cluttered, all I had to do was move the mouse to see all the windows, WHILE in the Spaces view. All this capability is gone. Mission Control *****, I dont want to use gestures on my Mac.

As for Dashboard, it was assigned to the bottom left hot corner and was quick and pretty. Now some of my widgets dont display color correctly and that grey Lego background is horrible!

As for Dashboard, it was assigned to the bottom left hot corner and was quick and pretty. Now some of my widgets dont display color correctly and that grey Lego background is horrible!

Don't use it as a Space then.

Didn't have much time last night to play with options, you are right. That works and is exactly what I needed, thank you. It just looks so much better this way in my opinion. Now that I've seen both worlds, however, it would be nice if I could keep it the way I have it now, where it comes up on top of my wallpaper and also shows up in Mission Control for another way to access it quickly. The way it stands now, it comes up via hot corner, but doesnt show up in Mission Control.

It's good to see that I'm not the only one with issues concerning MC verses Expose/Spaces, however, I am *stunned* that more people don't mind the huge step backwards.

I was a Spaces fanatic. I used all 16 spaces, generally running 8-10 apps at a time. I could switch back and forth between them with easy and my desktop remained clutter free. I didn't employ the keyboard functionality, as I found that I prefer to be lazy and just use one hand on the trackpad. But it worked just fine for me.

One app per space, clean desktop, fluid app switching by four finger swiping left or right to choose the app - obvious by the thumbnail size of the icon - which would instantly appear by itself without other apps/windows bogging up the view.

Now, in MC, I just don't get the logic behind making a single row at the top of the MC UI with thumbnails literally the size of a child's thumb such that I can't tell what app is in which desktop space. It just says "Desktop 1, Desktop 2," etc. No icons, no lablels, no rearranging.

Gee, Desktops 1-6 (which I've assigned one app per Space - do I even have that right?...) all have a picture of an app with a generally white background, some grey, maybe some color, and some text. At this point, I am deciphering pixels worth of color and/or composition to make my choice.

Yes, full screen is nice, and other Lion features are dandy, but the difficulty I'm having managing 10 apps all at once - and switching between them - is driving me crazy. I have never been compelled to write on one of these forums, but I am seriously considering eating the $30 and reinstalling SL.

Note: Without question I feel this is constructive. Would love to hear more voices chiming in.

I agree that Mission Control makes what was once easy hard. For example, in Spaces, I could drag apps from space to space. In MC, I can only drag apps in the current space to others.

So far, the only good thing I see in Lion is that now all sides of a window will finally resize it.

Completely agree.

I was hoping Spaces was going to get more improvements to let you focus on task centric organization.

Apple seems to have this idea in Spaces of using it to organize apps in different spaces, but I used various command line settings and some third party apps to use it where I put differeing tasks in each space.

You could do that with most any UNIX system in 1995, and with Leopard Apple came close to finally catching up, and then along comes Mission Control and its just left me scratching my head.

I find the changes in Lion seriously violate UI standards (some of Apple's own) and years of proven workflow, and I hope we can change it.

This is the first release of Mac OS X I am strugging to like, and some of the changes are genuine show stoppers... which is too bad because it also has some really nice features as well.

Really torn on this one.

Thank you jamestsnell for the link to Apple Feedback. I hope more people use it to have Apple think more about Mission Control and Spaces.

I just upgraded to Lion, and am very disappointed with Mission Control. I am a spatially thinking person, and I extensively used the organization of Spaces, each with specifically assigned apps. I could write in one space, do data/spreadsheet work in another, have my mail in a third, iTunes in the fourth etc. And all along, I knew where each space was relative to any other and could easily shift between them using hot keys, hot corners or hand gestures. Additionally, combining Spaces with Expose, I could see all apps (and their windows) within each desktop space, open any app, or move it from one space to another. Finally, adding a secondary monitor added a second screen to each space which I could exploit.

Mission Control is rather a version of Expose that has little in common with Spaces. In Mission Control, apps are assigned to different desktops without my control, and these desktops are constantly reordered as new desktops or full-screen apps are opened. Furthermore, when looking at Mission Control, it is impossible to see apps covered underneath other apps in all desktops -- it is possible only in the one currently in full view. Consequently, it is impossible to see all open apps and their windows at the same time, open them, or reorder them. It is also impossible to move multiple windows of the same app from one desktop to another. Finally, it is impossible to move apps to secondary screens (on my second monitor).

Mission Control has thus defeated the brilliant idea of Spaces, which created spatially ordered, potentially app-specific, desktops. From a neatly, spatially organized computer I now have an unordered and uncontrollable pile.

I see how Mission Control forces simple users to become more sophisticated. It is, however, at the cost of already more demanding users. I sincerely hope that Apple will make Spaces available again for people like me who rely on them for logical, spatial organization of their many computing tasks.

I agree that a Spaces power user alternative for Mission control is badly needed.

i used a 3*2 grid in SL that suited me fine. Eclipse, terminal, browser, sql app, etc were in their own space.

for switching it is control-down,up,left,right arrow.

now with mission control, all spaces are arranged left to right. no more grids. that forces me to scroll 5 screens to arrive at the last one !

About full view applications, i have no opinion as i don't really use any.