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Question: Seriously no key repeat in Lion?

This has to be the most ******** thing I've ever seen. Only certain keys that apple has deemed repeat-worthy repeat when you hold them down. As someone who supports unix systems and is in VI a LOT, this is simply unacceptable! Make it a configuration option!

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If you want to force the key-repeat, and disable the "Press and Hold" for additional characters, here is the terminal command:


defaults write -g ApplePressAndHoldEnabled -bool false


Then restart the computer.

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Jul 20, 2011 1:45 PM in response to Chad_F In response to Chad_F

I have noticed it repeats some places, but not others. I created a post about it. For example, typing in this text box allows me to repeat any key, but typing anything into the text box in Skype will not allow me to repeat any key at all. Please keep me updated on this because I also think it's a stupid idea.

Jul 20, 2011 1:45 PM

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Jul 20, 2011 1:51 PM in response to Nathan Miah In response to Nathan Miah

Key repeat works in terminal app apparently... But I'm remoting into another machine (I work from home and have to access my work computer via remote) and need it to work in EVERY app, not just the ones apple says. At least make it configurable! I may have to go back to snow leapord because of this...

Jul 20, 2011 1:51 PM

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Jul 20, 2011 1:55 PM in response to Chad_F In response to Chad_F

I just checked, and it appears I can only repeat certain keys too. One of the keys I pressed earlier might have just been one of the 'selected' repeat keys so I just assumed I could do it all. I can repeat a few keys like yourself. ssss llllll


Rediculous design choice. Who in their right mind at Apple would possibly approve of this?

Jul 20, 2011 1:55 PM

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Jul 20, 2011 2:15 PM in response to etresoft In response to etresoft

I have experienced that as well, but the funny, strange and inconsistent thing is this:


1) Open Safari, and at the end of ANY URL in the address bar press the 'a' key on ur keyboard and keep it pressed.

2) when the 'aàáä' pop up appears, press any of the numbers shown below and you will replace the 'a' you typed with the 'a' identified by the number you selected.


BUT


3) If instead of pressing the number representing the various choices, you use the mouse and click on the letter you want you get something like this: aä


So it appends the selected letter instead of replacing the original 'a' you typed....


No that is messed up!

Jul 20, 2011 2:15 PM

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Jul 20, 2011 2:26 PM in response to chrisgiacomi In response to chrisgiacomi

So far my biggest beefs with Lion are this and the lack of customizability for gestures. I can't 4 finger down for mission control like I did for expose? Man! That move is imbeded in my DNA to pass down to children.


Also.. I run my MBP display and a 30" cinema display... when I use mission control, you can't drag a window from the desktop of primary to a secondary or visa versa. So if I want to move a window from desktop A primary to desktop B secondary, I fist have to move it to B primary, switch to that desktop them move it to the secondary. PITA.


But this key repeat thing is a deal breaker! I have to be able to turn on repeat in ALL applications. This is a mac, not iOS!

Jul 20, 2011 2:26 PM

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Jul 20, 2011 2:30 PM in response to Nathan Miah In response to Nathan Miah

Nathan Miah wrote:


I just checked, and it appears I can only repeat certain keys too. One of the keys I pressed earlier might have just been one of the 'selected' repeat keys so I just assumed I could do it all. I can repeat a few keys like yourself. ssss llllll


Rediculous design choice. Who in their right mind at Apple would possibly approve of this?


No doubt approval came from the same who approved the removal of colour from most apps, colour and custom icons from the Finder sidebar, a gaudy less functional Address Book and iCal etc...


Removing the key repeat functionality appears to be application dependant so there may be some way to turn it off. In its present form, I agree with you - it's ridiculous.

Jul 20, 2011 2:30 PM

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Jul 20, 2011 2:39 PM in response to Chad_F In response to Chad_F

Yeah, I think you hit the jackpot... it's a Mac not an iPad or an iPhone...


I mean... honestly key repeat is a small thing... but seriously its a HUGE design flaw.


The UI paradigm used for iOS devices cannot be applied to a laptop or stationary machine. Not when it comes to the user interface. The input devices are different and also the needs of the users (using the different devices) are different.


I mean, even launch pad, only my grandma is going to use it... any power user would use QuickSilver or Alfred, but at least launch pad does not interfere with a power user's workflows.


But this key repeat thing does!


For example, even multiple desktops, in 10.6 you could decide how to arrange them 2x2, 3x2, 1x4, etc.. now no, they are just in a sequence... which is just wrong! For me to go from 1 to 4 I have to cycle through 3 different desktops! WHY? I mean, more customization, not less, more freedom, not less. Honestly I am in charge of the machine, not the other way round!

Jul 20, 2011 2:39 PM

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Jul 20, 2011 3:12 PM in response to Chad_F In response to Chad_F

Btw, in Pages these are the keys that reapeat and the ones that don't....


aaaaaa

b

cccccccccc

d

eeeeeeeeeee

f

g

h

iiiiiiiiii

j

k

llllllllllllllllll

m

nnnnnnnnnnnnnn

ooooooooooo

p

q

r

sssssssss

t

uuuuuuuuuu

v

w

x

yyyyyyyyyyy

zzzzzzzzzzzzzz



Anyone have any different result??? and can anyone see a pattern???

Jul 20, 2011 3:12 PM

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Jul 20, 2011 3:22 PM in response to Patrick Ellis1 In response to Patrick Ellis1

Patrick Ellis1 wrote:


No doubt approval came from the same who approved the removal of colour from most apps, colour and custom icons from the Finder sidebar, a gaudy less functional Address Book and iCal etc...




Yea... Address Book and iCal look like they belong on a child's computer! Sheesh!

Jul 20, 2011 3:22 PM

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Jul 20, 2011 3:33 PM in response to Chad_F In response to Chad_F

Chad_F wrote:


Yea... Address Book and iCal look like they belong on a child's computer! Sheesh!


The visual look is awful but the reduced functionality of those two apps is a bad joke. If this represents some of the best features of the iOS on the Mac then I'd say leave it in the iOS. The UI is inconsistent.

Jul 20, 2011 3:33 PM

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