Does anyone recommend OS X Lion?

If you try to send an email to a fictional email address, what happens?

softwater wrote:

If you try to send an email to a fictional email address, what happens?

If the domain is fictional (donald.duck@tdtzdjvjz) the server of your e-mail service (mail-relay) will send you a bounce message (error notice).

If the recipient (donald.duck@apple.com) is fictional, the receiving mailserver of the destination will send you a bounce message.

Ever received a mail from: MAILER-DAEMON@mailserver? That was a bounce message.

No, I was not referring to your work as not being serious. At that point I did not know what you were doing with your Mac. By serious work I meant more complex tasks and workflow, such as higher end graphics which demand more performance from the computer. What you are doing may be serious work, but it does not put great demand on the computer in terms of complex workflow. It is similar to word processing in that respect.

A sales person at the Apple store told me I don't really need it for what I do . I'm online mostly, read articles, look up info. and sites, purchase , email and use iphoto.

Strange, as I thought that was precisely the user profile that Lion was aimed at.

I went to the App Store to look at this and read the reviews. It looks useful for beginners and converts, and anybody can probably learn something from it. In that regard it might be worthwhile.

However, for older or advanced users, it’s not understanding how things work in Lion, the issues are how Lion hinders workflow and the dumbing down of the OS instead of advancing it.

Eventually you may prevent "shouting" by using smaller types for your posts, please.

I certainly AM an older user, using Computers from the Analogue days. I can claim to be involved in the entire history of usable computers. When digits started to take off in the 1970s, I even had the temerity to reject UNIX in favour of the DEC family as we grew a software business. Computer services were provided for the entire office, full of Engineers and CAD appeared. Despite this history, I keep an open mind. Of course now just a home user but lots of current activity with Aperture. I do understand that many will have to adapt their workflow or stick with SL, at least for a while.

softwater wrote:

I don't know TinkerTool (I'll check it out, thx 🙂 ) but you can disable Resume without it (see here).

Well, TinkerTool offers a graphical user interface. Still the applications will be reopen (with no previous windows if one selects so) at login time. That trick is more complete indeed. I am not sure I like it too much, tho. I suspect many error messages in the syslog file.

lupunus wrote:

In the Internet's standard (smtp) e-mail protocol a bounced e-mail createa Non-Delivery Report (NDR). It's an automated message from a mail system (mail server) informing the sender about a delivery problem.

That's the whole point. The *client* shouldn't be bouncing mail, the *client* has no access to the envelope, as the mail has already been delivered, so the server it came from may or may not be the one in the headers. Further, you're not telling the *server* on the other end that the mail was undeliverable, you're just sending a copy of the original email back to someone who the headers say sent it, so their *client* sees it, not their server.

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Anyway, if the sender is a spammer, the result remains the same. Upon the notice, the sender knows that there is a valid e-mail address.

That trick is more complete indeed. I am not sure I like it too much, tho. I suspect many error messages in the syslog file.

It works fine for me and others. I have seen one poster on here who said it didn't work for them. I guess you try it or not depending on how desperate you are to get rid of Resume. As I said, I haven't had any problems from locking up that plist file, and I don't have Resume anymore either... 🙂

softwater wrote:

I don't have security worries; I just loathe Versions and want a way to disable it.

Yeah, me too. At first I thought this would be easy: just don't use programs (oops, sorry, they're called 'apps' now, right?)

Ugh. I will never call them "apps". 😝

softwater wrote:

OK, I can give up Pages and use either Word or LibreOffice, no probs. The problem is Preview. It's a toss up which riles me more, Versions or Adobe's poor design and invasive backdoor processes.

Probably time to look around for another PDF viewer. Anyone got any recomendantions?

I wish. I've been using Word exclusively (sorry, Text Edit!) since Versions came along to make my life more difficult and complicated. But I still use Preview, and I hate it. 😠

Quote "Ugh. I will never call them "apps"

Yeah, I hate that too. Almost as much as I hate "peeps".

As for Versions, it's only the diehard Apple fans who keep on trying to argue that it's better than saving in the normal way. Everyone else hates it and not only in these forums.

softwater wrote:

and I don't have Resume anymore either... 🙂

Resume is good for you! It saves me the time of clicking on the same applications after booting. Too fatiguing and boring!! 😝